Good Luck and keep your discipline!

I saw one genius on here advise a newbie to make a place bet as opposed to a come bet is that guys kidding me ? LOL
The come bet offers a 2 to 1 edge on THAT throw.

Anyway on to my math ? i believe if you can successfuly get by 2 come bets (dependent on the numbers rolled) you are either at equal odds vs a win loss or at and advantage.
example… 4 - 10 six ways to make that vs 6 ways to seven = 50/50 to hit at least one bet….5 - 8 9 ways to win at least one vs 6 ways to lose….in this case you hhave a 50% better chance to win one bet vs lose both.
Take Double odds on you numbers at all times…..on the 4 - 10 the house edge would be about 3.6 to 4%...I believe if you were able to take 4 times odds on that bet the house edge then becomes about 2% is that correct ?
on the 5 -9 example the house edge would be less then 2%.....you say you are still at a disadvantage ? of course but at such low % you could play for hours without getting smoked….I also believe tru the course of the night you’re gonna catch a hot shooter or two that is even likely to put you into + advantage land at least for that particular night.

Last but not least i noticed on my last 4 trips to ac (maybe coincidence) all the best rolls came from the guys no more then 2 people removed from the box man…...makes sense to me…..i don’t like when a guy has to toss from the far end of the table.

My set is the ” No 4 / No 10 Seven Set ” -

This is simply the Hardway Set with a double pitch on one die or a single forward/backward pitch of both dice -

For clarification, I will explain -

All my dice sets begin with the HardWay set -

4 - 4 on the top faces and 5 -5 on the faces towards me -

This puts the 1 -1 to the left - the 6-6 to the right -

And the 3-3 at the bottom and the 2-2 on the away faces -

This set is referred to as the No4/No10 set because if the dice are on axis your’e likleyhood of making a 7 is greatly increased -

While your’e likleyhood of shooting a 4 or 10 is significantly decreased -

In fact -

There is only 1 way to make the 4 or 10 with this set -

That is a 2-2 four and a 5-5 ten -

However -

There are 4 ways to hit the 7 -

2-5, 5-2, 4-3 and 3-4 -

How many times have you set for and produced 7’s on the come-out rolls -

Many, many times -

What was your ” return of investment ” -

If like me - I only had a Pass Line bet -

It was a pissy 1-1 -

For some or most -

That is an acceptable return -

No longer for me -

I am going to begin to ” Lay against the 4 and 10 ” on my come-outs - parlay the wins - and take them down when a point is established -

There are 2 other dice sets which afford the same advantage against the 6/8 combo and the 5/9 combo -

Also with these you are ” laying less to win more ” -

That works for me -

Does anyone here play this method -

I have not seen it in play either in AC or PA -

More than just curious !

Unlike the Pocono casinos - and I ” assume ” like wise with SE PA -

As these combos are NOT on the layout -

They are NOT allowed -

The ” HOP any 7’s bet ” as I am assured - many if not most - would construe it to be a ” sucker ” bet -

Depends -

WHAT KIND OF A SHOOTER DO WE HAVE HERE , BOYS AND GIRLS ? -

Do we have a ” Gripper/Ripper -  Flinger/Winger -

OR -

Do we have a deliberate care taking setter who throws gingerly/ softly to the same spot with the same set over and over and over again -

I have done the ” 5-Count ” on each and every shooter -

And, I must admit, in all honesty , I will not bet on the ” Winger-Flingers / Shake,Rattle and Rollers ” and others in their category -

Regardless of how many point numbers / passes that these morons make -

They are losers - in my book -  in the long term -

In the short term -

They might have a lucky run or 2 or 3 or 4 -

But they have nothing -

To get back on topic -

In lieu of ” lay betting against ” certain anticipated / expected / hoped for results of the 7’s appearance on the come-out roll -

There is another cheaper approach -

A $3 ” Hop the 7’s ” on the come-out roll -

It’s a $1 wager on the 6/1 - 5/2 and 4/3 combos of the 7 on the come-out - or for that matter ANY roll of the dice -

The pay-off is 15 for 1 - if you hit -

Just want to put this out there as I just discovered this allowable bet in the past week or two -

This can also be played on the ” darkside ” !!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m wanting to set up an autobet on WinCraps to see how a possible system I’m using works in many many games.

Here’s what I’m trying to do.

Place the 6 and 8 on the come out for $18 each.
Sit tight until the 6 or 8 hits, collect $21. (if lose, re-bet the and 8 for $18 each)
After 6/8 hits, place the 6/8 for $12 each (instead of the $18).
After 6/8 hits again (collect $7) place the 5 for $5.
After 6/8/5 hits again, place the Field for $5.

Keep all four bets going (taking winnings only) until 7 is rolled.

Can someone help me get this set up? I would REALLY appreciate it.

I’ve had some pretty good success in online games as well as in the live casino with it, but I haven’t been trying for more than about 30 separate goes at it.

Thanks SO Much in advance all!