Advanced Dice Probabilities Chart

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  1. BuckShot, May 4, 2018

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    The following dice probabilities charts can be used to track your dice rolls using your favorite dice set. Use the chart to find and determine what your primary numbers will be.

    *If you can not determine your primary numbers or find your rolls are all over the place, simply choose another dice set.


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    Roll the dice using your favorite dice set and place a check in the appropriate box each time the combination is rolled. Keep track of your top results to determine what your primary numbers are for that set of dice used.

    Repeat the process with other dice sets to compare what primary numbers determine what your master set will be.
     
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  2. Mssthis1, May 4, 2018

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    I prefer to use bonetracker. It automatically calculates which of the 64 dice sets would have been best from one sample tossed with the same set.

    History on dice pays nothing though. If you aren't seeing one particular set show up more frequently in your samples as being superior, hopefully you know what that means.
     
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  3. BuckShot, May 4, 2018

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    where do you get bonetracker? I'm not sure they let anyone use software tracking at the tables.
     
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  4. Mssthis1, May 4, 2018

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    I just enter my rolls in a spiral notebook while playing and enter them at home. I feel one session is too small of a sample to show anything tangible.

    Use your favorite internet search engine and you should be able to find it. You'll need Microsoft word, excel or something similar to use it.


    If any suits are reading this you need to put a past roll display on craps tables like Roulette, Bubble Craps etc. It would be a money maker for you. Don't forget me when you trademark it:)
     
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  5. KokomoJoe4, May 4, 2018

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    Nor will its use provide you with an immediate synopsis of the information that you seek while at the current session of play. You will need to apply this information at a later session.

    There is a way to get the information you desire using what I believe was once called your shoulder computer.
     
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  6. BuckShot, May 4, 2018

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    It's cool, but I use this chart at the tables tracking shooters and regulars comparing them at a later time to determine numbers to bet on during my sessions. I bring these to the casino

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  7. Mssthis1, May 4, 2018

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    This is a good example of people seeing the same data and coming to different conclusions.

    If I have tracked a shooter that had been hot for a long period of time I'd start betting against him or betting on the numbers he had not been hitting at the first indication of a trend reversal.
     
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  8. The Comeback Kid, May 4, 2018

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    Without sounding flippant, what might this trend reversal indicator look like?
     
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  9. Freddyy, May 4, 2018

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    Never ever base your strategy on due betting.

    Best strategies in casino is progressive repeater bets. Like paroli. Raise when you win and keep losses lowest possible.

    Use a decent loss limit compared to a average winning day. And if you can regress bets, be conscient that, at some point if you have 200$ on the table...make sure you rack some winnins too, don’t be only pressing. You might have 200$ at risk for a 35-50 payout on a win. Regression locks it up as a profit. Don’t make two regressions tho, keep the progression going until you just want to pull the plug or wait for seven to show.
     
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  10. TDVegas, May 4, 2018

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    Theoretically there is no difference between basing your decision on "due betting" or "repeater betting"....

    Unless something is happening outside of random.

    Using terms like "never, ever" sounds like such a hard and fast rule....when betting either is actually the same.

    Using intuition on either is fine.
     
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    All I mean is, from experience. Don’t expect the game to turn on a dime, it can streak for a very long time.

    You better be on a streak then against it. Just don’t press it too much too early.
     
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    OK, from experience...your experience for you. What if someone else's experience is just the opposite?

    Again, this is just such a hard and fast statement you are making...and there is no real evidence to support the idea. The game would end if what you say is actually true.

    Sure the trend can continue. It can also turn on a dime. You don't know.

    Don't expect the games to turn on a dime?....sure.
    Don't expect the trend to continue either.
     
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  13. Mssthis1, May 4, 2018

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    In a nutshell, It depends. Bear with me for a few paragraphs.

    Live or bubble, no matter who is shooting, I keep a running count of the sevens I've seen verses expected. 2 weeks ago that number was -58 or 58 fewer sevens than expected. Today it is -4 and has been in steady decline until the last session when it went up. That is the key indicator I use. Needless to say I have been betting very conservatively on the pass side the last 2 weeks since I made a decision to see if my normal play can survive a cold spell.

    The past few months I have been playing 3 units across, 2 hits regress, and then press.

    I keep track in a spiral notebook with 48 rolls on a page = 8 sevens. Sevens are written in red since they are most important. The other numbers I can scan and see if they have been hitting or not.

    If any number box number goes 48 rolls without hitting once I'll use some of my profit that is locked up after the regression and bet more on that number after it rolls the first time. If the sevens are trending down at the same time it's a plus. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

    I really like it on the bubble because I play $15/$18, regress to $5 or $6. Sometimes I'll just bet an extra dollar on the number that just showed up from vacation and keep adding a dollar when it misses, until I'm right.


    I don't recommend my play because my bankroll has fluctuated between -$2700 to +$4500 this year and I'm bankrolled for a much bigger downswing. I'm currently still green even after the cold patch that is currently happening.


    The -4 on the sevens is almost 15,000 rolls. Most are bubble rolls since I don't play the regular table at home much. Their table and rules suck.

    I don't play the horn numbers.
     
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    I'm bettin you won't see it in your lifetime. :)
     
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  15. BuckShot, May 7, 2018

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    Updated Chart as requested from other members.

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