Bubble Craps is a joke (Fixed)

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  1. Mssthis1, Jan 9, 2022

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    Random is easy to achieve. It doesn't take very many rolls to make something close to the standard pryamid.

    On the flip side, a player never sees the long term in a craps game. The things like a 164 roll hand, 16 yo's in a row, 12 fours in a row, etc. The more variables in a game the greater the chance they will see more of these or fewer than the average player in their lifetime. You will see a few yet, you will never see them all.

    The biggest variable between an ETC and a table in no particular order. How often the dice are changed, The levelness or not levelness of the table or machine. Players and dealers leaning on the table, hands, chips, players changing the dice outcome from the previous result, dealers changing the dice result from the previous result, etc. etc. etc.

    Azure had to change their programming a while back to pop the dice to the ceiling at random intervals. The machine was too close to a true pyramid. It didn't have enough volatility.
     
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  2. TDVegas, Jan 9, 2022

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    I don’t blame you. I don’t like anything under a mask…especially entertainment related.
     
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  3. MisterInside, Jan 9, 2022

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    Pre-Covid, we had been going to LV 2x per year. The Cal has been very good to us. We’re now planning on going there for our 50th in 2026, God willing.

    Until then, we will limit our gambling to annual trips to Saratoga, Keeneland, Mountaineer and the local OTB. It’s not so much that we can’t afford it but it’s a combination of things. I just don’t want to feel that I’m getting raped everywhere I turn and I don’t want to encounter any assholes on airplanes, to name a couple.

    Besides, the bubble thing doesn’t thing does not float my boat and the new slots are a turn off to my wife.
     
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  4. von duck, Jan 9, 2022

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    Horse shit! Not in Your wettest dreams. Nonetheless, how would you be privy to Aruze program changes?
     
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    last time I was at big A up the escalator hotel under construction surface parking limited....right off escalator, straight in bubble was either 10 or 15 min....before that always 15 min except for the one that was next to the buffet area, which is gone ofcourse. buffet closed after too many fights there.

    I had no clue there is an aruze bubble in aqueduct.....at 10-15 min, Ill play on a real table with 5-10 times odds.
     
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    2 dollars with 5 times odds, I cant wait to see it...right now Im not going anywhere in NYC or long island.....everyone, and I mean everyone is getting covid...the good news is most are not getting that ill.
    but schools and businesses, cant keep up with it....if one kid or teacher got covid last year, the class went remote, now, not happenning....not like chicago....alot of districts here are pushing thru, wont close schools down....and are even not going remote....

    Im positive I have/had covid the past 2 weeks it started....loss my sense of taste, no smell, really big no smell anything, stuffed nose, sinus drip, mild cough....no fever...took 4 tests one every two days, all came back negative, tried to get a pcr....thats a joke here....no pcr tests unless you go to hospital and then only if they feel you need one....maybe wait 12 hours, my son needed a pcr test and waited almost 4 days for results....3 days on first pcr he t
     
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  7. von duck, Nov 22, 2022

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    Well, though your sample size is too small to be of any value, you DID somehow, arrive at the correct conciusion. The bubble games, both of them, ARE DEFINATLY RIGGED. Just for fun, lets ''run the numbers'' on your short scenerio. The odds of a ''crap'' showing are 1 in 9, and this is also the chance of a PSO showing. So, 9x9x9x9 is 6,561. Thats the chance that this was a ''ramdom'' event. Not impossible, but not likely either. The ''I'' bubble rolls about 120 times per hour, so you should see this sort of thing about every 50 hours, or 2 days, but, since only about one roll in 3 is a come-out, your particular scenerio, should only be seen about once a week, playing 24 hours a day. You will see it at least 10 to 20 times that often, on the interblock machine.
     
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  8. von duck, Nov 22, 2022

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    If you google ''bubble dice- fixed'' and scroll down through all of ''shill-shit'', which all sound like they are reading from the same ''shills manual'' that TD uses, you will find a few other guys that are saying the same kind of things about the bubbles that I do. Some of the descriptions are so similar, it almost sounds like they borrowed from my posts, to put their ideas into words.
     
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  9. TDVegas, Nov 22, 2022

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    Just because someone has the same thought as you…doesn’t make it any more credible.

    Think about it….

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    I think it does. The ''thoughts'' are a result of innumerablel observations. it's not just ME, it's every person Í've ever talked to that was playing one of those things. The dice are very much being minipulated by some device or devices. It is not on every single roll, but doesn't need to be. It should be illegal, at least in Nevada, but apparently, it's not. They have managed to slip these things through some ''LOOPHOLE'', in the interpretation of the law. I will find the answer, or die trying.
     
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    You keep chasing that dogs tail. Let us know on progress.
     
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    Yeah, and YOU keep shilling for thieves, so I guess it is that everybody has their agenda. I seek only the truth. YOU, seek to decieve.
     
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    Duck God forbid if that day ever comes....but if it does can I have that comped greatest ever written book on craps?
     
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    I'll sell you copy for 35 bucks, plus S&H.
     
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    now you've gone to far trying to profit off copyrighted material thats just terrible...

    you need to fly to Vegas and order a taco from one of them side walk venders make it a
    Taco De Sesos :D
     
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    OK, a thing that happened not too long ago, that I've been reluctant to post. A sitting member of a casino commisson told me straight to my face, that the bubble craps machine, at Least the one in that casino, WAS DEFINATLY FIXED. It was said in such a way, that my impression was that this person objected to having a machine that cheats the patrons, but is outnumbered on the board, by less honest members. I did not press for more info, but might in the future. I did thank them for their blatant honesty. I'm sure this person would be terminated, if they could be ID'd.
     
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    Hearsay? Not credible. Not evidence.

    He told you it was fixed by gave you no reason how? I find that ridiculous. He’s going to put his reputation on the line by talking, telling…ANYONE, but he won’t actually divulge how the machine is fixed?

    He can report his findings to any gaming attorney…even anonymously or thru a 3rd party. Hell…I’ll report it. Just let me know how it’s being done before I embarrass myself without evidence.
     
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    Hearsay? Yes, but comming from me there are a few, who know that it would therefore have credibility. This person may or may not know the mechinisms involved. The actual means, may only be known to a handful of people. The machine service person, may not know what the components are or how they funtion. When the machine is serviced, a diagnostic computer is pluged into it, something like pluging a car into an OBD computer. The Tech, would not need to know what any component does, only if it is funtioning properly, or needs to be replaced. The components themselves may not ''cheat'' but are enterfaced by a computer which facilatates a ''fix''.
     
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    As far as reporting anything, i see a couple of problems. Even though you have posted the statute that would appear to govern the operation of these machines, there would still be a problem. We do not know how the gaming commission inturpretes the statute, nor do we know what method is used to verify complyance. Without that information, the statute, is just so many words. So, why don't you make a formal inquiry to ''gaming'' and ask if, in fact the posted statute DOES apply to the bubbles, and if it does, what method is used to verify compliance. Then, post both your letter of inquiry, and the responce you recieve, if any. The results could be very interesting, to a lot of people. There may be some loophole. There would have to be, there is no way in hell that all of the rolls are random.
     
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