Can YOU make a living playing craps?

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Can you make a living playing craps?

  1. No way

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  2. Yes way

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  1. Dave G Ct, Jan 24, 2017

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    Snakeyes said to get a private lesson.But unless you are taking one from the Dice Coach they can be expensive.Heavy I think charges around $400.The Dom can we say 2g' s? Well if I hit another 6 point Fire Bet I may take the Dom up. Lol
     
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  2. Twelve4s, Jan 27, 2017

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    Did you know you can offset your 150-170k wins with your 250k losses?

    Take that IRS.
     
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  3. SevenOut, Jan 27, 2017

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    I skipped to page 9. Why wade through deep Bull Shit.

    You can barely make a decent wage working for Salary at the Casino as a Craps Dealer.

    Anyone who says they can make a living playing craps... is selling something. I have been on both sides of the table. Don't play me as ignorant or stupid. You have to be both to pass this tall story onto the gullible.

    Anyone saying they can or are making 'bank' shooting Craps... are lying to you. It is impossible. I am not selling Craps Facts, Craps technique to win and do not invest in stock for any Casino 'Empire'.

    Let's call me a Craps Denier. For two years at our two tables, we whipped everyone's ass all of the time. Those who beat us one night... we whipped their ass the next.

    What a crock of used Dice.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Jan 27, 2017

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    Reality joins the thread.^^^^^^^

    People can win. They can even string wins together, but there is no way anyone can make a living at bank craps.

    I've offered to follow any one of these "I can make a living playing craps" players for 25 sessions. Aside from the logistical issues of tailing someone and recording buy in, cash out....none of those who claim to make it their living would ever permit me to watch these 25 sessions....and it's not because they don't like me or don't want someone watching. They don't want me there there because they know they cannot make a living playing craps.

    Poker, a few VERY skilled sports handicappers and maybe there are a few blackjack guys running around making a living...although their existence is on the outs with casino crackdowns. That's it.
     
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  5. Liman

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    is seven out really heavy, or howard rockroller, or little joe alternate ego?

    Im not sure if you can even make a living selling dice influencing classes.

    Id like to know who the 10 guys who voted yes do for a living. Im willing to bet either they don't work and live off of a pension, wifes salary, money saved from employment, but Im about 99.9% sure none of them makes a living off the craps tables.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jan 27, 2017

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    Being an arms length from 75+ casinos...there is no one on this forum who would relish the opportunity to make regular bank from a casino game. I would welcome "heat"...because it means I'm winning. I'll take my chances that I can spread my action between here, Reno and a few cross country trips..to the point where I can visit each casino once every 6 months...maybe less.

    I'll be at the front door 7am, waiting for the table to open....grind, hit and run, draw it out---don't care. I'll do whatever it takes.
     
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  7. SevenOut, Jan 27, 2017

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    Those 'Special 10' need to move to Australia where the Stickman wagers are much better. Rather FOR, Law requires them to pay TO one.

    - Wizard of Odds. Read real facts. I have never encountered so many gullible Craps Players concentrated on one Forum. Get educated.

    - Why is it hard to find Craps Tables in Australia? Mar 6, 2015 - "Craps tables in Australian casinos are not that easy to find. ... host craps table because the odds favour the player too much not a high enough" ... (read the rest on your time, not mine).

    - Vietnamese can gamble at Casinos... if they earn... (check it out) No professional Craps Players in Viet Nam?
     
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  8. Liman

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    when I went up to play in (cant remember the posters handle, karysup, something like that), the person who has a craps/dealers school in manhattan, there was one dropdead beautiful dealer, I believe she was Korean, (could be wrong), she didn't seem too interested in becoming a craps dealer and he explained to me shes going back to her country and there are no craps tables there.
     
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  9. SevenOut, Jan 27, 2017

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    You missed the real reason Liman... but you are very observant.

    These women get the attention of 'single men' who are tossing green chips like I toss pennies into a wishing fountain. Craps Dealers are very good at numbers. They are also very capable of recognizing a fake Rolox watch from a Rolex.

    Of course, these High Rollers are stealing money from their company when on Sales Trips to Las Vegas. Why blow off your cash when you are on expenses?

    This is How you can make a living at the Craps Table as a Dealer or Player.
     
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    there was a hustler on this board once that offered to gamble someone elses money, claiming he can win anyone money at the craps table.

    how on earth would anyone hand over money to him?

    that's one way to make money playing craps. use other peoples money and take a cut when they win, and walk away no harm to their wallet when they lose.

    again, what moron on this planet would agree to this deal?
     
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  11. SevenOut, Jan 27, 2017

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    again, what moron on this planet would agree to this deal?
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    Obviously very few on this Forum.

    I thought this would be a great 'gig' for those who can Set Dice and make Big Bank on their money. Can you imagine if they brought in twice as much money, how quickly they could own the Casino!

    The only way to make a living playing Craps is at home with your own table. When it is your table, your bank, you as the shooter and your 14 year old daughter as the Stick and End Dealer... it just is not any fun. She is the Bank and you the Craps Player. What you lose is her allowance. Great incentives for the family to learn to deal Craps. A great way for you, the Player, to learn... that you are on the wrong side of the Craps Table!

    So Playing Craps for Fun is not of any value. No risk, no gain, no fun.

    Shooting Craps at a Casino:
    - No Risk, at first, playing with a client's bankroll.
    - No Fun, unless you are losing their money OR by winning to split 50/50...
    - No Fun when the client jumps you in the alley and you need five gold front teeth.

    Without Risk... Craps is boring. Like fly fishing without a hook. You have to catch a few live ones using other people's money. Then, change your name, your appearance, move to Australia where there are few Craps Tables and lay low.

    Thinking about it. Maybe we all should be counting cards at the BlackJack Table to make a living. There are 52 cards in a deck, 8 decks in the shoe... one Joker trying to count the One Eyed Jacks.
     
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  12. cmonhard8, Mar 12, 2017

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    Sevenout(and anyone else who has worked at a craps table), with the people you worked with at the casino, did MOST or ALL of your fellow employees play craps at other casinos on a very consistent basis? Would you say that they were USUALLY better than the 'average joe citizen' gambler, as far as strategy and money control, or did most of them end up broke, wasting their paychecks playing craps at other casinos?
    How would you breakdown the average craps table workers, as far as a 'gambling profile' goes?
     
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  13. Onautopilot, Mar 13, 2017

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    My experience with that question.....it seemed to me that the dealers were like the rest of the population. Some were married and settled down, raising a family, very little gambling. Some were casual gamblers, having a little fun and enjoying the scene. A few might have had a problem. The others like myself, spent there money much as my signature line spells out. :)
     
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  14. Mr7-11, Mar 13, 2017

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    Any bet I make, another player can come to the table and bet against me. His odds are just as good as mine. So, no, you can't.
     
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  15. Craps Poopshoot, Mar 13, 2017

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    If you place the six and I lay the six, I have a better odds of winning that you do!
    https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/basics/

    With Baccarat the banker has the edge over the player, but you pay a commission of 5% to bet on the banker. This is very similar to lay bets with craps. The Wizard of Odds says to bet the banker, and I agree with that - however when to bet on the banker and when to not bet at all is open for debate. Perhaps ill make that lay 6 bet after the 4th roll of the dice. See https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/number-of-rolls/

    A player can win in the casinos if they understand the casino games, however the vast majority of players don't understand the games or simply don't care to understand them. The casinos do very little to inform and educate players as to the realities of the games they play, but provide free alcoholic drinks to make up for the lack of explaining anything to anyone!

    Dealers and Pitbosses here in Vegas tell me that players who have discipline and patience win. There is this one young man who I see at a lot of casinos, who makes his rounds looking for tables that are giving, makes about 30K a month. Of course to the Jerks and Trolls on this board, such a person cannot exist and there for is Lying about his wins - because it is they themselves who cannot win and therefor project on the rest of us that "nobody can win". Seriously, you got to ignore these trolls and jerks!

    There are many styles and methods a person can use to play here in Vegas, some are very strong and aggressive but ripe with volatility, and others weaker and conservative and much lower in Volatility. The advantage play the Vegas player has is the sheer number of casinos and open craps tables - because at any given time one of them is giving! The young man I speak about hunts for tables that are giving and won't stay at a table that is choppy or losing.

    There are also guys I know who drive in from L.A. to just play craps. They come here for a week on mid-week free rooms and grind up enough wins to pay the bills back home and buy more toys. Again, the belly screamers will deny that these guys exist, and will say that I am lying or being lied too. You see, they are losers and have no discipline or patience to actually understand how gambling works. So they lose, and they project their views on everyone in that "we all lose, and there are no winners - everyone lies about wins".
     
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  16. Twelve4s, Mar 13, 2017

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    If you see this guy all the time and he makes 30k a month from the tables, why don't you just follow his action and get rich?
     
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  17. TDVegas, Mar 13, 2017

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    LOL....
    and you know this how?

    Why aren't you just following him? You seem to know exactly how much he's winning each month. I would assume you aren't just relying on his words "I win 30K a month"...

    and rather have seen these talents.

    Yes, you are being lied to. Let me guess, one of them is named King Human? Another one is named "The Dice-inator".
     
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  18. Twelve4s, Mar 13, 2017

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    Best thing is, he never has a month where he loses 30k.
     
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  19. TDVegas, Mar 13, 2017

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    My friend Kate has a standing offer for any of these wizards of craps...she tracks 25 of their sessions. Cash in, cash out.

    They will scatter like cockroaches with a flashlight.
     
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    Because the "guy" does not exist!
     
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