CES Show and DI are doable

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  1. amzngguy, Dec 28, 2019

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    Big shout out to my brother DI'ers and the Comeback Kid.

    Boss called me before Christmas and said: "Hey Guy, need you to go to Vegas for CES (Consumer Electronics Show) and host a party for the company in a Corporate Suite." I said: "Yes Sir, do you want me to get some girls at the party that can suck the chrome off of a trailer hitch?" He laughed and said: " Nope, save your money for the Craps Table". I got a very nice a-joining Suites at $4k/night/3 nights. (sleeps 8 plus Chrome girls)

    Several of the Guys in the office asked me about craps and I taught them how to play; explained the concept of DI and pointed them to the Wizard of Odds Website. I also explained to them about how some players HATE the idea that DI is a "teachable skill grounded in reality". I also know that I have shot several "Dukes" in my career where I had the dice set, used proper rotation with a minimum bounce off the back wall for winning streaks that paid that month's mortgage and more. I have also had my fair share of losses. I know haters gonna hate, but why bother? Its my money and I know my stats.

    I have tracked my DI skill in set and toss to affect about 2 rolls in 100 in a positive non-SO event. That's about a 2% advantage for the mathematically challenged. Long run? Pretty much break even.

    BUT I have seen some awesome rolls with guys betting $25 on the hard ten and seeing hit hit three times in a row with them pressing it every time. I have seen a guy throw $1,000 on the all craps and win twice in a row. I have seen a guy put $50G's on the pass line during the World Poker Series at the Rio. I also have hit the all tall, small, on one roll about a half dozen times, but only once with 5 5 5 across. I have seen people hit it with 25 25 25 across.

    Craps is about the most exciting game in the world. Comeback Kid will play it into his nineties.

    Remember, Best odds in the house(other than (High Stakes Video Poker).

    See you in January 2020!

    Happy New Year, - Amzngguy
     
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  2. eagleeye2, Dec 29, 2019

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    amzngguy,


    Yes, CES & DI, two amazing events!

    Best of LUCK in Vegas with BOTH!!!

    eagleeye2
     
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  3. Dave G Ct, Dec 29, 2019

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    Best of Luck

    Forget WIzard site. Axis Power Craps with Heavy is for you.
     
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  4. yacraps, Dec 29, 2019

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    Sounds like you could have a- amzn trip :cool:
     
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  5. DeMango, Dec 29, 2019

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    Sage advice, go with Heavy. WoV is di haters group. Go there only for the math on WoOdds.
     
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  6. DeMango, Dec 29, 2019

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    Damn TD. They are handing you your lunch at WoV, best to stay here and slay the innumerates!
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Dec 29, 2019

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    Hear about that " easier" card counting system Michael S. invented.For a guy so thorough in math he came up with a Mickey mouse system that was reviewed by Blacklack Apprentice who discarded it as pretty much worthless. Just saying ...
     
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  8. von duck, Dec 29, 2019

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    So, only the sevens which would be part of a "seven-out event" are effected? That would come to 1/6 of a seven out per roll, and a total of 1/3 of a seven out less, for the 100 hands. Normally you'd see 16.66 seven outs per hands, with THAT possibility, but you've got it down to 16.33, for the same situation? How many hands, thrown, where, did it take to make this determination? Even with 10,000 hands thrown, I think you're still within the "standard deviation", 1,633 vs 1,666, so it could be just an anomaly caused by normal variance. :cool:
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, Dec 29, 2019

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    Of course it's variance Baron. There is no controlling (or influencing) dice results.

    We learn in grade school that both the flip of a coin and the tossing of dice are random events, and with random events, anything can happen.
     
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  10. von duck, Dec 29, 2019

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    It's ALWAYS variance, the question is, is he causing the variance? There is no way for either of us, to know for sure. What would make our guess, better than his? About 1/2 or more of the guys I see at the table, are "setting", then throwing in that "stylish" way, that indicates they are trying to "influence" the dice. On my last trip, I saw one guy, that actually seemed to be able to do it. :cool:
     
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  11. TDVegas, Dec 29, 2019

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    LOL...

    Yes, some aren’t fond of criticisms of paid sports handicapping services.

    It’s strange....because a good portion of them over there aren’t fond of paid dice coaches either.

    You would think the mentality would carry over from one to the other....critical of paid DI teachers and critical of paid sports AP handicappers.

    I would assume the....”why sell it when you can just do it yourself” would be a similar theme over there for all AP play.
     
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  12. DeMango, Dec 29, 2019

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    These are the posts that get you into the SuperRick hall of fame!
     
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  13. DeMango, Dec 29, 2019

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    Over there they want math proof. I’ve got it and they’ll never get it!
     
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    If you DID give them "math proof", how would you ever prove that the numbers were achieved honestly? Face it man, nobody can prove anything. Why would you, or anybody else, WANT, to prove it? Does not, the money in ones pocket, speak for itself? :cool:
     
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  15. TDVegas, Dec 29, 2019

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    That would be the smart move, IMO.

    They would want validation regardless. On something as controversial as dice influence, I don't think they will ever just accept data "on word". That doesn't necessarily take anything away from the actual data...other than its not being validated (corroborated) by a neutral party.

    It's not a slight on anyone even though its perceived that way by some....just the nature of the beast on gambling claims regarding a 500? year old negative expectation game.

    Regardless, I don't think there is any upside for a player to prove it to others. Themselves...yes. Others....no.
     
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  16. eagleeye2, Dec 30, 2019

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    Koko

    KoKo have Head In Dark Place as usual...

    eagleeye2
     
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  17. KokomoJoe4, Dec 30, 2019

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    Well then, I stand corrected on this matter. So our teachers are wrong and the Dom is right?

    Are you saying that practice at a random activity will make us better shooters? I have noticed that with most games of skill, practice does indeed make damn near perfect. I have yet to see this with dice control, but perhaps I'm not examining the correct people, like the ones who charge their "students" to play at the same table with them.
     
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  18. Mssthis1, Dec 30, 2019

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    You would think a DI who has the day off from their job because of the holiday would be taking this excellent opportunity to spend the whole day at the casino plying their craft and making some real money instead of burning up bandwidth on the internet. ;)
     
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  19. KokomoJoe4, Dec 30, 2019

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    Now of course no one will have long tosses every time they shoot, but if skill is involved, you might expect to see decent results the majority of the time.

    Since this does NOT appear to be happening, I am not so big on what others might call dice shooting skill.
     
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  20. DeMango, Dec 30, 2019

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    You are thinking that when two dice are tossed the laws of physics are suspended. You probably are also thinking no one has the physical skill to keep two dice to fly as one insuring influenced results. Wrong and Wrong.
     
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