CES Show and DI are doable

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by amzngguy, Dec 28, 2019.

  1. TDVegas, Dec 30, 2019

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    My only counter point would be...because influence should really be quantified by numbers, percentages, etc, where you are getting xyz = abc data....using terms like "decent results"....or "majority of the time" or "doing pretty good" are very generalized, vague, non specific terminology.

    In that case...just about anything can be justified and its left up to the specific person to categorize or validate himself...and or skill level.

    It's not a big issue...but probably goes to the heart that provability to others is a very difficult undertaking....beyond the idea, why would you want to do that in the first place?

    If I have 2,000 rolls...feel the data supports influence, wonderful. The catch is what about the forthcoming 2,000 rolls. If we analyze a pattern..that's past tense. It's useless unless replicable in this game.

    I guess money could validate it to the person. If I ended up the year in the green. I don't track anything beyond that. Is there a valid confirmation there for purposely skewing random if that's what I attempted to do? You tell me.
     
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  2. von duck, Dec 30, 2019

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    Why would you think that? :confused: Half the fun of being a DI, is sharing your "valuable" experience, with the rest of the world. :cool:
     
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  3. DeMango, Dec 30, 2019

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    To add on to the above. There is a chi square test built into my BoneTracker. Not enough rolls, it says so. Numeric value between 0 and1. 1 is random. Less than .05 influenced. Between .05 and .15 probably influenced. I act accordingly.
     
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  4. von duck, Dec 30, 2019

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    How much money have you been able to "take-down" acting "accordingly"? :)
     
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  5. amzngguy, Feb 15, 2020

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    Duck,

    It could be an anomaly, but I am not that lucky. Let's just say i am about even lifetime; and I have had a blast doing it.
     
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  6. bonetek, Feb 16, 2020

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    No matter how well two dice fly in synch, that is absolutely no "insurance" of
    a positive or non-seven influence.
    Although the dice may look prettier in flight, poor trajectory, speed, pitch,
    spin, among other variables will still cause the result to be random, no
    matter how well they fly in-synch.
     
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  7. DeMango, Feb 16, 2020

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    And that is where BoneTracker takes over and makes a liar out of you. Quit while you’re behind.
     
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  8. bonetek, Feb 16, 2020

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    You resort to name-calling because you can't tolerate the reality
    that you are completely reliant on BoneTracker to make your totally garbage
    input into a "pattern of influence".

    You can't hide behind the math of chi-square when the crap you put into
    BoneTracker gives you useless results that won't give you an edge anywhere.

    You and the whole universe of DI's are guilty of self-delusion about the
    predictability of influence by BT when they haven't enough motor skills to
    input anything but garbage and receive anything but garbage in return.

    Good luck with simple variance at the casinos.
     
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  9. DeMango, Feb 16, 2020

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    I am an army of one, no one does what I do. So don’t tell me what can and cannot be done, you are clueless. Actually your weak arguments thinking I put crap into BoneTracker shows how little you know. But I give you this, your weak arguments imply your disappointment and lack of skill in your results. The usual argument, I can’t do it so you can’t either. Done with you troll. Ignore button activated.
     
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  10. von duck, Feb 17, 2020

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    If you CAN actually do it, why would you give a shit what anybody else thinks. :confused: When you come right down to it, a "real" DI, should be trying to convince everybody that it can't be done. :confused: What would you have to gain by encouraging hordes of DIs except more heat? :confused: The whole thing doesn't make any sense at all. :cool:
     
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  11. bonetek, Feb 17, 2020

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    Clearly DeMango is a regular legend in his own mind.
     
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  12. twodicebilly, Feb 21, 2020

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    looks to me like Demango is trying to tell the people on the board the game is not random!!!

    my word

    TDB
     
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  13. bonetek, Feb 21, 2020

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  14. bonetek, Feb 21, 2020

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    TDB: I never said it was not possible. Just that DeMango shows his arrogance,
    and ignorance when he tries to invoke BoneTracker math to substitute for
    his evident lack of skills and logic.
     
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  15. twodicebilly, Feb 21, 2020

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    One thing is sure. the game can be tough . It takes a whole lot of practice and work
    to put your self in a position to win and even then, you need the money and the guts
    to bet enough to make it pay off.

    I dont know Demango, i know people that have seen him play...i have no idea what his results
    are over time.....and it is none of my business, based on how he has acted on here i could care less.

    TDB
     
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