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  1. TDVegas, Oct 28, 2016

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    I don't think you're around the game too much, James. You'll see lots of repeating numbers, trend numbers, trend rolls from controlled tossers and random chuckers.

    That's craps. Every rolled 6-6-8-8 is not a DI in action.

    Where on the Strip will you be Saturday?
     
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  2. James Hall, Oct 28, 2016

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    Not sure I am back in Mesa at the moment , how about you?
     
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  3. TDVegas, Oct 28, 2016

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    I thought you said you would be in Vegas on Saturday?
     
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  4. James Hall, Oct 28, 2016

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    no I didn't say that
     
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  5. TDVegas, Oct 28, 2016

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    TDVegas said:
    "I thought you said you would be in Vegas on Saturday?"

    James Hall:
    "no I didn't say that"



    Hell, even $nake thought Saturday...
    No "lame" excuses from me, $nake. From James?....seems so.

     
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  6. SevenOut, Oct 28, 2016

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    There is a booklet, printed several decades or more, ago, where an individual took the time to record each and every Session Outcome. He was watching tables or did it in the privacy of his home. I never looked into the process. From Point to Seven Out, then next shooter.

    I never wanted a copy and someone may know the author or title. The copy I looked at was possessed by a Don't Player. Just lots of numbers for those with a System to test against 'random outcomes'.

    Again, James Hall may be able to credit the any additional sixes or eights towards his own efforts. I, like TDVegas, would give praise for having wagers on both numbers and beat the Casino. No argument from me.

    I watched a shooter at the Silverton Casino in Henderson, Nevada yesterday afternoon. He was setting a 5-5 on top and the 1-1 was facing me watching from the other end of the table. He made three points. Four. Ten. Eight. Point Seven Out. My Full Monte would have made some winnings on this shooter. The shooter was playing only his Pass Line wager, Odds, a buck or two on each Hardway and some 1-1, 12-12 wages. He hit the 1-1 twice in a row with a $5 wager... and did not let it Ride.

    Twice, a single die went off the table. So obviously not a DI. Not a DeMango Chi Square shooter, either. Several players were wagering on the inside numbers, a dollar or two on all of the Hardways with no success.

    My brother would call and tell me about the Big Wins on his favorite slot machines. He could not 'recall' how much he lost to get these Big Wins. Random Number Generators do not interest me in understanding how to beat... either. This big winner is living on his monthly Social Security check.

    Anyone who is angered due to the disbelief of others of a technique that needs to be seen in action, should step back and understand that snake oil salesmen are everywhere. When a Casino BANS something that a bystander can see it working... give me a dose of that medicine.

    I have DeMango insulting me as if it matters to me. I am not looking for sides to pick and chose from. He mentions Chi Square mathematics to defend positions used by the Dice Influence instructing community. I take no position, but find it of no value to Craps and Dice Outcomes. Those promoting Chi Square offer more confusion to what already exists.
     
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  7. James Hall, Oct 28, 2016

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    I didn't say I would be there Saturday , I ASKED you where you would be playing on Saturday
    At this point my trips will depend somewhat on when and where Leon and them want to go
    We will get together at some point I do want to see your magic on the bubbley
     
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  8. TDVegas, Oct 28, 2016

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    What??!! LOL.

    You ask me where I will be Saturday with absolutely no clue if you will even be in The state of Nevada?

    Continues to amaze.
     
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  9. James Hall, Oct 28, 2016

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    right I didn't say I would be there , but I thought I would find out where you would be in case the guys were to come back over
    our original plan was to be there thru the week end but I had to get back to sign papers on a house
    It's been hectic but if I can get this house to close I will be able to get back on schedule
    the wife and daughter are wanting to get back to the regular routine

    but you are right it's amazing and like I said I do want to watch you perform your magic on the bubley
    hell who knows when I get too old to play craps I just might take classes and learn how to light up the OLD BUBBLER too
    that will give me two games to kick ass on
     
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  10. $nakeEye$, Oct 28, 2016

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    HOW does one ' take classes ' on the bubble machine ?

    Especially, when that ' sexy voice ' incessantly demands - " Press the Button " habitually !

    The " Keys to the Bubbly Crappy Vault " MUST lie in WHEN and HOW HARD one " Presses the Button " !

    Now - for sure - Liman and TDVegas - must have their own proprietary secrets as to how to effectively influence the over-size dice !

    Should be interesting when " East meets West " during the Great Bubble Crap Bonanza - which the date and location is TBD !

    $...eE..$
     
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    my guess is he means he doesn't understand anything about this game, so lessons on basic craps strategy is important if you are going to play a game you don't understand.

    the next time him and his posse are near a craps bubble, hes going to collect all of their allowances, tell them all not to share the Costco card on Wednesday and not put gas in their cars so they can save up some bucks, put as much money into the machine as possible, print out a 1000 dollar ticket, and cant wait to get here to post it, and say, hey, look, I put in 100 bucks just to try out my new system for the bubble and walked away with 10 times as much. Boy, its easy, me and the mesa boys cleaned up, and then we headed over to the live table and made that into 5 grand. Ofcourse this time he will post a date and time stamped picture of the 1000 dollar ticket he pulled out of the bubble machine.
    and that's how I expect the next chapter of the bullshit by james hall.

    hes just setting it all up. giving us hints. having his buddies save up their grocery and gas money for a few weeks so the 3 or 4 of them could save up 250 each to get that 1000 dollar ticket.

    were ready for the next chapter.
     
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  12. DeMango, Oct 29, 2016

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    You claim ignorance of a valuable tool of software. It offers guidance on dice outcomes. There is no confusion on influence. You have it or you don't. Hard not to insult people who do not do their homework, yet come off as all knowing guru's.
     
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  13. James Hall, Oct 29, 2016

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    The thing to do is CHALLENGE the bubblers to a challenge of their skill on the bubble machine to see if the EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS ,complete with pictures
    TDV is making , can be proven .We will call it the HOONIACK CHALLENGE . and if he can prove his claims
    I am going to see if I can talk him into teaching me BECAUSE
    A wise old man once told me ,,,

    "trying to develop a skill thru trial and error
    is the greatest exercise in futility known to mankind
    if you want to develop a skill find someone who has
    developed that skill and get them to teach you
    even if you have to PAY THEM"

    What do you suppose old TDV would charge me to lead me into MASTER BUBBLE status ?
    whatever that would be might be worth it
    that would give me two skills in which to SHINE
     
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  14. James Hall, Oct 29, 2016

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    The thing I DON'T UNDERSTAND is why some of you guys play anything in a casino
    The game of craps isn't that tough . For many people however the game "IS TRULY RANDOM"
    they can't win , so they compound their problem , "THE INABILITY TO WIN"
    by pounding their pennies into a machine
    THAT'S WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND
    But by the same token , playing the old bubbler may give them a believable alibi
    to their wife why they lose so much
    then of course she will say
    "HONEY POT , LISTEN TO OLD JAMES HALL , HE'S TRYING TO HELP YOU
    LEARN TO WIN OR QUIT"
     
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  15. KokomoJoe4, Oct 29, 2016

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    In the past, I did not believe this. I am beginning to believe. :mad:
     
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  16. SevenOut, Oct 29, 2016

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    Chi Square claims that throwing a pair of dice too hard, disturbs the outcome. Somewhere on a post I mentioned that. WHO or what determines how hard. The observer, the dice or the outcomes?

    As a Random Shooter... I prefer to disturb the outcomes, although not always in my favor, unfortunately.
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    Bubble Craps is the 'Ultimate System Players' Craps' game.

    Anything disputed on this Forum, other than an effective System of Play... just put a NO in front to make it accurate.

    examples:
    Dice Influencing. NO Dice Influencing
    Biased Dice. NO Biased Dice (otherwise the System Players will rake in the winnings!)
    Chi Square Influence. NO Chi Square Influence
     
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  17. DeMango, Oct 29, 2016

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    Ignorance, sheer ignorance.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Oct 29, 2016

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    And what many here don't understand is that James Hall...with his superhero craps skills...simply doesn't even play craps (enough) to warrant credibility of his statement "I win"....

    You're 12-20 Vegas claims went out the door...
    As did others...

    You can beat the drum all you want.

    You simply lack credibility...to say just about anything on winning craps.

    You still never got back to us on your ADAMENT claim "Harrah's has a property in NM"....and you were there.

    Where is that?

    The boy who cried wolf doesn't work here, James. Sorry.
     
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  19. James Hall, Oct 29, 2016

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    How often do you think I am playing ?
    You still haven't figured out the Harraha's thing
    When I posted that I figured the first thing you would do is Google and check
    you didn't
    the thing that came up first was the date stamp data
    the mullets did nothing I expected
    I thought the FIRST THING YOU WOULD ATTACK WAS THE NEARLY $30,000 IN CHIPS
    that seemed to be of no importance to you,,,, The chip win was real
    the date and time stamp data was actually unintended , I would have no idea how to erase that S&*^T
    it came off because I texted the picture from Las Vegas to my daughter in Mesa
    sh then posted it on the forum thus the mysterious data
    We were in Albuquerque did not do well + a few hundred
    went to Vegas BINGO
    we figured you would go straight to no Harraha's in Albuquerque
    no response so I kept saying Google it , google it
    because you and your little group of can't wins are so negative I decided to troll you mullets up
    Fred says I am a troll , well now I am I decided to play you guys a bit
    The guys and I were in Vegas the other day and I was thinking about meeting up with you on Saturday but
    some things came up with the house we are buying so I had to come back
    I am playing more than you think but not more than I have to
    I have to be careful how much I play
    I have to spread it around a bit
    There are a lot of things about the casinos and gambling you and your little group don't understand
    If you watched any of my students handle the dice it would blow you away
    but be good we will get together one day and you can see how the other 2% live
     
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  20. Onautopilot, Oct 29, 2016

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    This is pure bull crap James, and you know it!

    You said Google it because you really thought there was a Harrahs in NM....because it does come up as there being a Harrahs in NM, but that is on an advertisers site, and only because they want you to click on it! It fooled you, and you thought you were home free.....you even referenced the casino that was on the advertisers site....proving you actually thought there was a Harrahs there.

    Once caught, you concocted that BS story about a "paradox", and that you and your gang thought this big "joke" up.

    The chip stack picture is still available, and it has an interesting side to it....are you still saying you won those chips on the day before you posted it? Check your picture, before you answer!
     
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