Craps Hedge the point and invest the difference

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  1. BuckShot, Mar 20, 2019

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    Craps Hedge the point and invest the difference.

    1) Recommended bankroll = $500
    2) Recommended minimum Don't Passline = $50
    3) Recommended minimum Place 4 or Place 10 = approx. 50% of the total Don't Passline bet.
    4) Invest the difference. (50%)
    5) Recommended minimum Place 5 or Place 9 = approx. 70% of the total Don't Passline bet.

    6) Invest the difference. (30%)
    7) Recommended minimum Place 6 or Place 8 = approx. 85% of the total Don't Passline bet.
    8) Invest the difference. (15%)
    9) If a Point is made, Start over.
    10) If Seven is rolled, Start over

    "DO NOT INVEST IN ONE ROLL BETS"

    Increase your Don't pass line with your profits.

    Craps table, strategy, Hedge, place bet, don’t pass.


     
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  2. BuckShot, Mar 21, 2019

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    Craps Hedge the point and invest the difference (part 2)
    1) Recommended bankroll = $500
    2) Recommended minimum Don't Passline = $50
    3) Recommended minimum Place 4 or Place 10 = approx. 50% of the total Don't Passline bet.
    4) Invest the difference. (50%)
    5) Recommended minimum Place 5 or Place 9 = approx. 70% of the total Don't Passline bet.
    6) Invest the difference. (30%)
    7) Recommended minimum Place 6 or Place 8 = approx. 85% of the total Don't Passline bet.
    8) Invest the difference. (15%)
    9) If a Point is made, Start over.
    10) If Seven is rolled, Start over

    "DO NOT INVEST IN ONE ROLL BETS"

    Increase your Don't pass line with your profits.

    Craps table, strategy, Hedge, place bet, don’t pass.

     
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  3. KokomoJoe4, Mar 21, 2019

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    What "investments" do you see available on the craps table? Are these more or less risky than say, real estate, stocks, and precious metals?
     
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    Dice odds = Investments.

    Example:
    if you have $50 on the don't pass line and 10 is the point
    you can buy the 10 for $25 (Pays 2 to 1)
    this gives you an extra $25.00 to "Invest in other numbers (4,5,6,8,9) risk free gambling collecting profits from these numbers on that $25 investment.

    It's gravy man!
     
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    Craps Hedge the point and invest the difference (Part 3)


    Craps hedge the point and invest the difference (Part 4)
     
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    Or, you could use the $25 to make up some of the $250 you would be down, from the average 5 come out losers you would encounter along the way, in a normalized round of the dice. Any bets that you "invest" in, would have to produce a net negative result. A guy COULD, tread water with this for a while, if that was ones intent. Everybody has messed with this, at least on paper, your prospects with this bet, equal the sum of all H/Es of the bets placed, times the amount bet. :cool:
     
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  7. BuckShot, Mar 22, 2019

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    Craps hedge the point and invest the difference (Part 5) Finale'

    What I did in this finale' session was simplified the strategy by simply:
    1) Dividing session bankroll (any amount) in to TWO equal stacks
    2) One stack goes on Don't pass line, Other stack used for Hedging the point and Investing the difference

    * If 7 or 11 get's rolled on comeout (Passline will lose so just take the remainder of your chips and divide in to Two equal stacks and start session over.

     
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  8. BuckShot, Apr 3, 2019

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    UPDATE:
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  9. twodicebilly, Apr 3, 2019

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    You asked about sets and so forth the other day. I am not sure what type of shot
    you use but I assume it is a GTC or Parr on axis shot.

    I hate to do this on this site because sure as hell you will get attacked for scamming
    some one......but if you really want to get into that I would suggest a LJ class. I say this because
    the LJ shot makes it much easier to work with the dice. The GTC shot you have four
    4 numbers in the throwing plain on each die. that is a lot to keep tract of. The LJ
    shot you only the front and back face so there is much less to worry about and in fact if
    you just watch the front die......it tells you a lot.

    You asked about 4 & 10.... well the 21 54 gives me more 4's and then the 54 21 gives
    me more 10's it is not as easy with the GTC shot to target the sister numbers. LIkewise
    if 35 36 gets for you nine...… 36 35 will then be the 5, if a set gives 2 12's say and you
    need the 2 for the ATS bet you rotate that set.

    The ATS bet is much eaiser to get with the LJ shot than the GTC shot

    Conversely, the GTC shot may be better at hitting just one number more times in a single
    hand.

    tdb
     
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  10. Mssthis1, Apr 4, 2019

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    This would have been a tough half hour of play.

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  11. BuckShot, Apr 4, 2019

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    Sweet! I will make this info top priority. Thank you so much twodicebilly for sharing this.
     
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  12. BuckShot, Apr 4, 2019

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    Please enjoy another video of the
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  13. BuckShot, Apr 4, 2019

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    Hey guys please enjoy another video of:
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  14. BuckShot, Apr 4, 2019

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  15. DeMango, Apr 5, 2019

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    Real men don’t place 4/10. They buy them at [email protected] with vig on win. If not possible find another casino.
     
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  16. tabletop123, Apr 5, 2019

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    The little Joe shot is easier to track, because you don't have to worry about 4 die faces as with the GTC shot. You SIMPLY look at the front die? Lol

    REALLY? Lol

    Billy....ANY toss that you use....you DON'T have to concern yourself with the 4 numbers that result in the TOSSING plane.
    You SIMPLY look at the numbers on the SIDE of ONE die, & if ANY one those 2 numbers On that ONE DIE DOES appear in the TOSSING plane, you KNOW THAT PARTICULAR die has flipped out of the tossing plane.

    If I am tossing an On Axis toss, & using the CONVENTIONAL Hardways set....WHY would I concern myself with tracking MORE numbers in the TOSSING plane (2,3,4,5) as opposed to the 1 & 6 on JUST one die? Lol
    It's MUCH easier to track two numbers on a die as opposed to four numbers.

    Same thing with " Setting" the dice. The schools always teach you to set the dice the same way everytime.

    What a crock of shit!!! All you need to know in order to set the dice on the same " Set" is.....what numbers are on the sides of the die as you set them. If Iuse a 2V dice set it doesn't matter which numbers are in the tossing plane as long as I have 1346 on the SIDES of the dice.
    It's the ARRAY that the dice are being " Set" in that REALLY matters, the numbers in the TOSSING plane can be arranged "however".

    If I use a Hardways set, & I have 55/44 , & toss the dice, & the next toss I have 33/22....it's the same Set.

    The schools ( in MY opinion) get too friggin technical telling you that everything must be EXACTLY the same on every toss. Don't move your hand a cunt hair different than the previous toss.

    Don't move your foot a cubic inch past where you previously stood, etc.etc. A crock of shit if you ask me, but of course.....opinions are like Assholes.
     
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  17. twodicebilly, Apr 5, 2019

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    Now, see I look at it different, I think assholes have opinions.

    And yours is incorrect, the LJ shot is much easier to work with ( in my opinion)
    than another shot....and I still use both.:):):):):)



    TDB
     
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  18. The Midnight Skulker, Apr 6, 2019

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    An instance of "If you can't dazzle them with an SRR of 28, baffle them with technodrival" perhaps?
     
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  19. twodicebilly, Apr 6, 2019

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    I would love to have an SRR of 28 like Demango said he
    had....I cant get there, try as might.....this week it was just
    17

    TDB:):):):):)
     
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