curious if anyone who plays doesn't love the game and/or gets bored?

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  1. scott22, Jan 3, 2017

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    I like the game but I am not in love with it and tend to get bored after a pass around the table. this helps me secure small profits and limit my loses without much extra thought. just curious if everyone on here loves the game and wants to play till the cows come home or is it is all about the money or being in action? thanks in advance.
     
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  2. gargoil, Jan 3, 2017

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    For me it's business at the tables. Occasionally I do get on the tables and socialize if my wife is with me and we meet up with friends. However my bankroll is in the safe up in the room and I only have a few hundred to BS with at the tables. Do I love the game? sure. But it is also a side income for me.
     
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  3. lone irish digit, Jan 3, 2017

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    I mostly look at the game as a fancy carney game. I too get bored with it quite easily and I only like it when I am winning. I think, as I have aged, that I enjoy Video Poker more.
     
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  4. Twelve4s, Jan 3, 2017

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    Just curious, why did it take you six years to post this question? It's a very good question, and gets to the heart of the matter. Is craps our whore?
     
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  5. AzDice, Jan 3, 2017

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    Up until 2 years ago I loved the game. Went to laughlin about 3-4 times a year. I would play up until the agreed time to go home. Friends laughed at me when I told them I made $10 playing craps. I might have been down to start the last day there and got only ten to to be positive but it was time to go. It was the only game I played. No slots no video poker.
    Now I've lost interest in the game because of table conditions and funny dice. I was in laughlin this past weekend and didn't play any craps. Don't need to scout a table very long. Just look at the chip racks.
    My wife and I go same amount of time every year but I play craps a lot less.
    Maybe it is age. Find myself playing video poker or just hang out in sports book.
    I lost in the sports book this past weekend but I didn't think twice about craps. I can wait for craps till we get back in May
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jan 3, 2017

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    Try bubble craps. No funny dice. No bad table conditions. You can sit. Same game as table craps in terms of results.
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Jan 3, 2017

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    I love the game- very challenging.But always aware of where I am up or down.Must have MM.
     
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  8. AzDice, Jan 3, 2017

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    I have tried the bubble craps. Just can't get into it. It's funny that when someone sevens out on the bubble the expressions and comments are just like live table.
    When you lose at the bubble It wasn't my fault. It was those people who don't push the button at the right time.
    I think laughlin only has two bubble machines. Pioneer and River Lodge or Dottie's whatever it's called. They're dollar minimum. Always couple empty seats.
    Speaking of River Lodge. They added to the casino and put in a huge game room with giant TV screen and a lot more big screen tvs through out the game room and casino floor. Adult game room with lots of seating and what I call tailgate food. Brats, dogs and hamburgers. If they ever get table games in there it's gonna be the place to be.
     
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  9. tabletop123, Jan 3, 2017

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    I ABSOLUTELY hate the game!(Enjoyed the Dice Influencing journey, though) Why? Simply because after 8 years of practice, & play, I am "burned out"!

    It gets VERY boring for me now, & nowadays I have to FORCE myself to practice in the garage!

    Even with practice, 15 minutes( once a week) is ALL I can stand before I get bored!

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can always make your practice sessions exciting By doing different things ( target accuracy, no spin, hyper spin, experimenting with different tosses, dice Sets, etc) BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, for 8 years!

    Nowadays, it's no practice, show up at the Casinos, & toss a couple hands & DONE! It's all business for me, & frankly, when I master hand/eye coordinated games, I expect to be paid accordingly! (like playing pool)

    You're just NOT gonna get paid from expertly tossing dice, commensurate with your dice tossing mechanics!

    Not saying that you cannot develop a skill & end up winners, but the amount of time invested, versus getting PROPERLY paid due to skill accumulation is a joke!

    Why? Because you NEVER have an advantage over the Casinos! Tossing dice expertly is no guarantee! The very best looking tosses COULD get your nuts clipped, because a skilled shooter doesn't vary much from random!

    Now, I realize that a "Few" will debunk my post with the usual "well, maybe you just can't do it", or you had a bad loss, or some other bullshit!

    WRONG! I know what my capabilities are & it's MIGHTY hard for me to believe that there are "Others" that possess the same extraordinary hand/eye coordination skills that I possess, & are KILLING the Casinos! Bear in mind, I was FORCED to excel at a VERY YOUNG age! It was learn or starve for me as a kid! No hand outs, or wealthy family members!

    There ARE long term Di winners, but I will tell you RIGHT NOW, as a 50 ball Straight Pool Runner at the age of eleven, & one of the very best three Card Monte experts at the age of eleven.........NO ONE is killing the tables with their Dice Influencing Skills!

    I just want to show up at the Casinos, get the money ( in one hand or less), & go home! It just ain't any fun tossing dice any more for Old Top, & my toss experimental days are lonnnnnnggggg gone!

    I really don't see how guys like Two Dice, Gargoil, SnakeEyes, & others can remain so enthusiastic about the game! My hat TRULY goes off to these gentlemen for their unwavering dedication to the game!

    It's extremely hard work developing into a skilled tosser, & even though I have "Paid my Dues", I look at it strictly from a financial standpoint these days!

    Don't give a shit about long rolls, glued together tosses, outstanding SRR's, or "Get togethers" at the Casinos!

    I'd rather just show up, toss a "Warm up" hand ( to acclimate myself) wager $360 inside, get a few hits, & call it a day! ( win or lose)

    Yes........THE THRILL IS GONE!

    See you at the Top!
     
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    Hope you guys caught the humor in that......I'd like to win in ONE HAND OR LESS! Lol
     
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    Funny thing about craps -

    Perhaps somewhat similar to Baccarat -

    The Player CAN BET either WITH or AGAINST the SHOOTER or the HOUSE !

    BUT -

    MOST EVERY ONE either CAN NOT - or - WILL NOT accept THAT aspect of the game -

    AND - WOE - be unto THEM !

    $...eE..$
     
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  12. AzDice, Jan 3, 2017

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    I have one of the Dice Doctor books.
    Have thought about learning the pensioners play for the Don't side.
    I'll need to practice play on a simulator before I get to play it on a live table
     
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  13. Twelve4s, Jan 4, 2017

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  14. KokomoJoe4, Jan 4, 2017

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    This is very perceptive and even smart. :eek:

    Most of us DO NOT know how to play both sides of the fence, and it would appear to be an excellent idea to have a trusted method of play or two from either direction.

    I think that I do, but Snake is right, I don't get around to switching gears very easily.
     
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  15. James Hall, Jan 4, 2017

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    If you read the posts , it seems that some on this forum are not too concerned
    about winning , you see them post things like
    "Well I lost a few dollars but I had fun"
    That could just be of consoling themselves , I don't know
    but there are several who are serious about the game and play yo win
    those few are always looking to develop and edge , THEY ARE THERE FOR THE MONEY
     
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  16. HornHighBLEVE, Jan 4, 2017

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    The game makes me nervous, edgy and generally uncomfortable... can't say I love it either.

    I only play it to make some money, which I don't, never the less I find the game an intriguing opportunity.

    I see other players make money so I know it can be done.

    I gamble only with my formerly 'up in smoke' cash that I have saved.
     
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  17. James Hall, Jan 4, 2017

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    never let anybody convince you that you cannot learn to win
    there are things you can learn to do that will enhance your opportunities TO WIN
     
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  18. The Midnight Skulker, Jan 4, 2017

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    When I was able to get to my local haunt a couple times a month I got on a first-name basis with all the dealers and suits, and even some of the regulars who lived closer to the joint than I did. Consequently, it was like visiting friends: good times even when the house was grinding me down. Marathon sessions, while never in the plan, were the norm.

    Then the rains came...by the bucket load. My work schedule changed so I had to curtail the frequency of my visits. The economy tanked and the dice became quite hostile so I had to curtail the frequency of my visits even more. The casino got new owners who brought in their own chiefs who brought in new indians.

    The new bean counters also tightened the screw on the comps. Prior to the change of ownership I was getting what amounted to round trip gas money and a free meal every two weeks; that was gradually reduced to some free slot play and a beverage at the snack bar. Pre-ownership-change I was out of pocket only what I left at the tables, which was actually a gain about half the time; afterwards it cost me to get destroyed. IOW my visits became less enjoyable...much less, and I had no incentive to make the 2ΒΌ-hour drive.

    My last visit ended an absence of over two years, and I noticed a markedly different attitude about the place.
    Before:
    "We truly want you to enjoy your stay; we know we're going to get our due, tomorrow if not today, and maybe even not from you, but get it we will."​
    After:
    "We want your money...now."​
    My new attitude:
    "No more Good Time Charlie. My enjoyment will be directly proportional to how much of your money I pack out of here, Mother [expletive deleted]s."​
    Craps is still my favorite casino game. In fact, with my attitude adjustment it will probably be the only game I will play since there is no fun to be had anymore.

    As for the boredom factor, I am a 5-counter when front side and I do get bored when shooter after shooter fails to qualify. Nevertheless, I take solace in the fact that my chip supply remains constant during a drought.
     
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  19. Twelve4s, Jan 4, 2017

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    These folks are still waiting for you James.

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  20. dicepunk, Jan 4, 2017

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    Take the edge off with a few of these:

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    Although, your ability to make money might become diminished as you down each one.
    I think MP calls it "chip remover".
     
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