Deep State plotted to take down the President

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  1. basicstrategy777, Oct 30, 2019

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    Andrew McCabe Confirms: Deep State Plotted To Take Down Trump
    Andrew McCabe Confirms: Deep State Plotted To Take Down Trump


    : In pushing his new book, former FBI acting Director Andrew McCabe dropped a bombshell on CBS News. The Justice Department held meetings to consider removing President Trump from office under the 25th Amendment, after Trump fired former FBI Director James Comey for lying. If that doesn't convince you there's a Deep State, perhaps nothing will.

    We have maintained since early 2017 (see here, here, here, here, and here) that the supposed "Russia-Trump collusion" was in fact engineered by the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton campaign working with Deep State officials and bureaucrats who hoped for advancement and perhaps even posts in the coming Hillary Clinton administration.

    They wouldn't, of course, have to worry about rules, the law or moral propriety, since Clinton once in office would no doubt squelch any unwanted investigations.

    "There were meetings at the Justice Department at which it was discussed whether the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet could be brought together to remove the president of the United States under the 25th Amendment," said CBS News' Scott Pelley, who interviewed McCabe.

    And McCabe admits he began the obstruction of justice investigation against Trump, despite having virtually no evidence.
    Andrew McCabe: Hobbling Trump
    "The most illuminating and surprising thing in the interview to me were these eight days in May (2017) when all of these things were happening behind the scenes that the American people really didn't know about," Pelley said

    Yes, and those eight days culminated in the appointment of Robert Mueller as "special prosecutor."

    That ensured that no matter what happened to James Comey, Andrew McCabe or any of the others, Trump's presidency would be hobbled from the very beginning by an unjustified investigation.

    This is nothing less than an attempted silent coup against a sitting president. The machinations of the FBI, CIA and Justice Department plainly indicate a conspiracy. A crime against the Constitution and the people of the U.S.

    A large cast of characters ranging from presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, CIA Director John Brennan, current deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, senior Justice Department Official Bruce Ohr and his wife and sometime CIA asset, Nellie Ohr, FBI Director James Comey, FBI attorney Lisa Page, FBI official Peter Strzok, and, of course, Andrew McCabe, took part.
    Deep State's Anti-Trump Collusion
    They all worked together to undermine Trump using what they knew was an unreliable "dossier" based on hearsay from questionable foreign sources and paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. Discussions of removing a legitimate American president under the 25th Amendment shows their desperation after Trump's surprising 2016 victory.

    Together, they decided that democracy was too important to be left to the people, and Trump's removal had to be stage-managed instead by them from behind the scenes.

    And they lied about it. Or kept quiet about it. Or misrepresented what they did, even to the Foreign Intelligence Security Court. That is real obstruction of justice. And a real conspiracy.

    Remember, the extraordinary events related by Andrew McCabe happened just months into Trump's time in office. And Comey's own perfidy took place just as Trump entered office.

    This wasn't because they had evidence of a crime.
    A Silent Coup?
    Inside-the-Beltway elites fought to subvert the presidency of someone they, not the rest of America, deemed unfit for the presidency.

    The more we learn, the more tenuous the evidence seems. And the more devious and partisan the major Deep State players seem. Is it possible the Mueller investigation has something of which no one is aware? Sure. But he hasn't shown anything yet. Nor has he even hinted he has something.

    And if, indeed, he doesn't, the legal scrutiny should turn away from Trump to those who, from the apparent safety of their taxpayer-funded Deep State offices, planned to take down a president they didn't like.

    Bad bad people ...should be in jail.

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  2. Grizzoola, Oct 30, 2019

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    No, these were not bad people. They were good people trying to save the republic from a maniacal madman, bent on subverting every normal convention, procedure, institution, etc. of centuries of good government, supported, unfortunately by millions like you, who think the Constitution and all policies by government under it have somehow become inimical to the welfare of America.

    No, it's apparent that you, et al., support Trump in his racism because you are scared shitless about blacks having any kind of standing in our society. You can't face the fact that whites are now a minority, like the others, but a larger minority. Sorry, 777, America has passed you, Trump, et al., by.
     
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  3. twodicebilly, Oct 30, 2019

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    they are bad people... just stop and think for a second...look at the last president supported
    by all the dems.……..

    remember this.....Obama ….. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen

    then Obama moved heaven and earth to stop the shale oil folks and he could not and when gas prices started to
    come down they asked him if that was a good thing for america...he said" no, they will only go fill up their trucks"

    Imagine if every businessman in america listened to Obama and said screw it, I am only going to work 35 hours a
    week like everyone else????? we have 152 million trucks in America, 80 million or boats, countless atv and campers
    and trailers...you wipe out all recreation in America by eliminating trucks, you send the country into a depression
    in one day one the country would never recover from........ you take back all shale oil production and gas prices will be
    $5 in one day.....or more.... think of the cost of distribution, the cost for schools ???

    No look at the dems this year...forgive all student loans.... the kid that went to Harvard or Brown is worth $100,000
    to the government, the plumber or brick layer is worth nothing.......thousands of family dairy farms are gone, over
    700 in Wisconsin in just the past 2 years because mega farms using illegal workers that the dems love produce way to
    much milk.......abortion was not enough, now they want to ok the killing of the kids that survive abortions....


    Now a guy like this guy said he cant wait until all the whites are a minority.....that will happen, there is nothing
    than can stop it now......imagine what kind of a country this will become when the entire country is like San Fran
    or Chicago, ?????imagine what the world will do after it has depending on our markets for jobs and a place to
    sell good when we no longer have a market.

    So you ask, are the dems bad people...yup.....the very worst the world has seen and then Griz wants to blame
    Trump for that???

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  4. Grizzoola, Oct 30, 2019

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    Yep, you're scared, too. ;)
     
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  5. MisterInside, Oct 31, 2019

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    Catherine Herridge leaving Fox today, to join CBS in November.
    She did an awesome job, a helluva investigative reporter. Shepard Smith
    hated Trump’s guts and it showed every day. Herridge called everything
    down the middle. She will be missed and it’s a coup for struggling CBS to
    get someone of her talent and intelligence.
     
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  6. twodicebilly, Oct 31, 2019

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    you bet I am, when the worlds greatest country is going to be destroyed by some of the people
    in and as many as they get from outside....yup I am scared.

    Only bad people would do that

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    Smith not only hated Trump, he hated every republican.

    Remember Katrina????? he sat on Fox for three days and railed
    against Bush over that water and bridge.....Yet in the first three days
    the state, the county and the city did nothing....the water never came, the buses
    sat empty and the only thing that worked the first three days.....the only thing
    was the federal government in the form of the Coast Guard...they saved and
    removed 32,000 people and Smith never said a word about that....zero!!!!!

    What Smith did to Bush over those three days is what turned Bush into a democrat
    his last 4 years.....he just had to be liked.

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  8. basicstrategy777, Oct 31, 2019

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    So Grizz....you support what is going on in congress......everything that's goin on..........how much would you do...how many laws would you break....how many people would you kill......how much of the constitution would you destroy......JUST to get rid of Trump............orange suits are coming Grizz.....

    Can you imagine how this chapter we are living in America will look in the history boioks......what will they say /.......a proud chapter?........

    Grizz....you are a smart, smart man and have seen much....please, please don't tell me you are in favor of how our legislative branch is functioning now.....please.

    777





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  9. twodicebilly, Oct 31, 2019

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    I will remind you. none of this impeachment effort is based on conservative
    ideas, or programs passed by congress, this has to do with the mouth of
    Trump




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  10. MisterInside, Oct 31, 2019

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    Interesting comments TDB- I respectfully disagree with some of it. Bush blew it during Katrina AS DID local officials. If Katrina had hit the NE coast, the response would have been much different. He left office with his tail between his legs, not having a clue about the economic crash or what to do about it. His asinine attempts to allow the poorer folks to buy houses caused a lot of the reasons for the crash, so in that respect, I agree with you. Let's face it, he was a nice guy but lacked the intelligence and wisdom to be a good President. He did surround himself with some winners.

    His 9/11 response was way too soft although that was his finest hour. He should have been much more aggressive.

    Smith was not fair to Trump or his administration, otherwise he was fair and a good reporter. His hatred of Trump was inexcusable. There must be something there that we don't know about. Maybe the gay thing. Who knows?

    I don't like the direction that the country and world is going, but we live in a democracy
    and majority rules.
     
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  11. von duck, Oct 31, 2019

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    We do not live in a "democracy". We live in a "constitutional republic", and the constitution is supposed to rule. The constitution says what the arrogant majority, can, and cannot do, but we have allowed the Federal courts to become politicized, so now, we are in big trouble. :confused:
     
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  12. basicstrategy777, Nov 1, 2019

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    Pretty much everyone, intuitively, knows what the right thing to do is.....most rational people know right from wrong....like the natural law.........so much shit gets in the way of doing the right thing.....it is unbelievable......that's why we need God to bless America.

    777
     
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  13. twodicebilly, Nov 1, 2019

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    who told you this was a democracy ??????? my word ????

    Now this is what the democrats want and further they want an end to
    electoral college, the very foundation of this republic.

    Lets hear it for the dems.…..majority rules, lets just allow enough people in here
    in certain parts of the country and five states can control the entire country...wonderful

    Something else to see the dems for who they really are...….. by having illegals counted
    in the census, with over 30,000,000 being here and in certain parts of the country they can
    require more house seats than 10-12 total states in the country....again a complete end to the
    American system.

    Misterinside is right about one thing, we have allowed this to go so far we will not continue
    to have a Republic, the dems are like a cancer, if it located in one area of the body you can take it
    out,once it spreads, it is to late...

    TDB
     
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  14. von duck, Nov 1, 2019

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    The top photo is a fake, and probably the bottom one also. Just "work" the truth man, and let the chips fall where they may. Trump is in deep shit man, of his own making. He has NO integrity, which is not to say anybody else does. :cool:
     
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    Trump is in deep shit, very deep. Now we should understand they were going to try
    to get rid of him even if he had done nothing...that was a given, but they understood
    the type of guy he is so they applied every kind of pressure they could find, and most of his
    problems come from his statements or actions because of the unfair shit they put him through.

    He fired so many people, that they are all going to come for him now....in real life his enemies
    were not much of a problem.....in politics the other party makes a home for his enemies.

    NOw unless more comes out, the senate will not go along with this, so he is safe, but this
    will take all the energy for many more months and there is a chance he may lose votes in
    several swing states just because people just cant take the uncertainty anymore....people did not
    like him when he ran, but he was better than the uncertainly around Hillary.

    I dont like him, but he is on the right side of things, I just wish he would understand he does not have
    to be the god he thinks he is , he just has to make it easier to vote for him than take a chance on them.

    TDB
     
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  16. basicstrategy777, Nov 2, 2019

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    You people see things much differently than me....I see that Trump will sail thru this with much benefit coming from this impeachment charade.

    He is is zero trouble.....he will close the china deal soon......economic data continues to come in strong.......the guy will win this thing in a landslide........the inspectors reports will come up with criminal charges against promenent trump enemies......the impeachment will play out very, very badly across America.......he has a nice tailwind at his back.....the wall is going up FAST......there was not one defection in the GOP on the impeachment vote....all 196 republicans voted with him..........Touble ?...you guys are loopy..

    You place way, way to much stock in the fake news and it is starting to affect your clear outlook on the situation............he will continue to give you the finger...he will continue to get things done......true americans will see this while people like you will focus on ka-ka that don't mean shit.

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    :) When you get healed-up, schedule a brain transplant, you are in dire need. You and I both know what that Ukrainian phone call was about, and that it amounts to HIM doing to Biden, what you are accusing the "deep state" of doing, to him.
    As long as we are on the subject, define, "deep state", very clearly, and very concisely. Just to be sure of who, and what, you are referring. Or is that just a word you heard on FOX, so you like to drop it in every comment, cause it sounds real "conservative"? :cool:
     
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  18. MisterInside, Nov 2, 2019

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    You are right Duck. We know what the call was. Nobody in their right mind is going to remove a President for THAT.
     
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  19. basicstrategy777, Nov 2, 2019

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    Deep State is believed to be a clandestine network entrenched inside the government, bureaucracy, intelligence agencies, and other governmental entities. The Deep State supposedly controls state policy behind the scenes, while the democratically-elected process and elected officials are merely figureheads.

    The whistleblower is a piece of the deep state.....btw...his testamoney will be blown up easily.......


    btw...if this goes to the senate, there will be no trial and it will be dismissed immediately.

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    We are NOT dealing with people that are "in there right mind". :confused: I doubt if the necessary votes could be found though. :cool:
     
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