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  1. DeMango, Feb 10, 2020

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  2. lone irish digit, Feb 10, 2020

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    This is Barney

    You do know that Jeremiah Booker is Mr Ted Vegas's pen name.
     
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  3. TDVegas, Feb 10, 2020

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    Shit....did I write this, or what? Or did I?:eek:

    nice find, Demango. Not sure who this captain guy is....but a 147 roll would have likely been documented by the casino. Is Scoblete still not revealing his name....a decade after passing? I think the other players in the "famed", unreleased picture are all gone as well.

    In the end, players will play the game as they feel is best for them. Casino doesn’t care. Abide by house rules and keep it moving.

    I do think his betting advice is sound for long term, regular play....as it’s the best chance to stay “above water”, imo....

    Unless you play bubble craps with KKJ. Then, winner winner chicken dinner!
     
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    Ive stated this 100 times since ive been involved on this board.

    if there was proof dice control hurt casinos profits they would ban it in a heartbeat.

    DI shooters go on heaters, the problem is, they don't go on heaters any more often then the average dice chucker, like me.

    DI shooters don't bother me, if anyone feels it helps them win, Im all for it. But they will never convince me its worth anything until one of them do it consistently.
     
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    Ive seen a picture of the captain, along with an entire group of people.

    could have been anyone, but it made a good story I thought.
     
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  7. lone irish digit, Feb 10, 2020

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    This is Barney

    Mr Limon, you probably saw picture of captain personage in Lid's first book, "Gambling for Ennumrates." IFRK, the LID had a picture of him and captain personage in it because the LID use to run with the captain in the Atlantic City area around the 1980-82 time frame. That book is a mostly greatest read and made Koko the craps player he is today.


    captain_and_me.jpg
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Feb 10, 2020

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    I've seen this authentic picture already. Where is the other one, and no I don't mean the picture of the Arm?
     
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  10. Liman

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    no, the picture was shown to me by Mr. Scoblete.
     
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    Fred

    it is completely false....period.

    I was hassled last time I played in Green Bay using a perfectly legal shot and also last time
    I was in Laughlin using a perfectly legal shot......

    That is a fact...….and TDV I will go you one better, you join me this weekend at the
    that table and i will show you exactly what happens...


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  12. KokomoJoe4, Feb 11, 2020

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    LID or Barney,

    Please send me a signed copy of the GFE book, I must have misplaced mine.
     
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    after decades of watching people do peculiar things with dice on their toss, setting, praying, rubbing, blowing on them, Ive yet to see one pit or dealer harass a shooter except for two things. first, they lift the dice way above the rails and the dice disappear in their hands, like when they ask their girlfriends to blow on the dice, second, short rolls. many, many short rolls.

    one that stands out in my mind, is the last trip when I was in sunset station, most of us at the table were doing well. One shooter, most certainly a di shooter, I mentioned him in my trip report years ago, was consistently warned about throwing short dice. almost every throw the pit would lean over, and tell him, too short, you must hit the back wall, yet, until he eventually sevened out, there was no action taken against him, nor did they threaten to take the dice away, he just smiled and ignored them.
    so there must be something so peculiar with you at the dice table, you rub everyone the wrong way. or maybe you short roll, or maybe you hide the dice, I don't know, but I do know every casino Ive been in the past 40 something years, not one ever questioned or harassed a di shooter unless he short rolled every roll.
    do you think we believe you roll the dice like a god? and you hit points at will, and that pisses of the casino? laughable, Id bet money that I can outroll you any day of the week in any casino in any state, win more than you at same table, or lose less than you, any day, any time, any place, just met me somewhere when I travel across the country and prove me wrong.
    no one has yet, and btw, my given Indian name is Walks with wounded knee, and I will take on twodice billy anytime.
     
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  14. Mssthis1, Feb 11, 2020

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    Only two places I've received heat is Harrah's Reno and Golden Nugget Laughlin. In both cases it was dinosaur pit bosses dressed like mobsters. It was also deserved both times because that was back in my "barely touch the back wall days". Both times I rectified it immediately.

    I look at it like this. It's their house. it's their choice to enforce or not enforce rules as they see fit.

    If you want to use questionable tosses find a hot college chick with big tits and a low cut top to be your assistant. As long as it's a male crew you can get away with anything. If your toss is that great, the money you pay her would be chump change to you.
     
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  15. lone irish digit, Feb 11, 2020

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    Was Mr Dave Guacamole hassled by the suits when you were at same table, mr Longfellow? He has a MP underhand "low and slow" toss that skips up to back wall and touches it just below alligator points then dices bounce in sync resting about 2 inches from wall. If I was suit this most amazing on the axes toss would scare the shits out of me.
     
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    My only point would be is what exactly does someone mean when they say "harassed or hassled"? How are they being hassled, specifically?

    There's no question each casino may have different house rules about toss and in fact each employee may have a different interpretation (leniency) of those house rules.

    What might be an acceptable toss for boxman 1 may be too low for boxman 2 who takes over during your next roll.
    Maybe too hard.
    Maybe too low.
    Maybe too high.
    Maybe 1 dice hits the wall and the other doesn't

    Boxman 1 calls you out, boxman 2 lets it go. It's their game, their rules. The player does not say "my toss is fine"....frankly, then you are asking for trouble. Obviously, reasonable consistency is desired.

    I don't believe the hassle is emanating simply from a viewpoint of "we have a skilled shooter and we are worried about him beating us"...."so now we need to harrass him and throw him off his game".

    Inconsistency from casino to casino or employee to employee is the nature of the game as far as toss and house rules go. There really is no such thing as a legal or illegal toss beyond both dice needing to hit the back wall. It's a subjective call. Of course the player only wants consistency.

    Drive 56 in a 55.....you're not legal. That's a legal standing. Craps doesn't work like this. 6 inches off the table is not legal? 10 inches is legal?

    Craps doesn't work like that.
     
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    DeMango reduced to slumming to fish out this piece of drivel. Lol.
     
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    LIMAN

    I can see you dont really play the game....maybe you play bingo.

    I indicated...….truthfully....that last time I was in green bay I was hasseled.. I either use
    a GTC shot from sl1 or a Lj shot from SR1......the LJ shot is a lower shot, does not slide
    and clearly bounced and hits the table outside the prop box... it always hits the back wall.
    not even close to being a questionable shot......

    At the Trop...last trip I played Monday am and had no problem, I played the next pm and the table
    was empty, I got the dice and a lady walked up and bought in....I had short roll, she had shot roll, the pit boss stood
    right there and was very nice as I was shooting....I adjusted set and had another medium roll, she
    had nothing...pit boss stood there....2 other people came to the table, I got the dice back. using the exact same
    shot and hit several pass line winners and on roll 28 the pit boss said no more of that, we wont allow
    any more setting. I indicated I had been playing for two days and set quickly, he said yes, but my boss Is watching.

    That is exactly what happened.

    I had three phone conversations with players this week, two of them brought up how there were hasseled in the past week.

    So liman, if you know nothing of this you have never played the game.....period

    If you are on a good roll, and they can stop the game, slow your shot down, make you change something or the stickman
    can lean out over the table to block your follow through...some time they say we will gave you the dice already set on your numbers but they dont....all these things are done for a reason...…..

    TDB
     
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    the guy your referring to is in critical condition with cancer and your still picking ??????

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    since you mentioned bingo.

    2 soldiers sitting in foxhole.
    enemy outnumbered them and they both knew they were in trouble.
    one looked at the other one, we are out of ammo, there are hundreds of them coming at us.
    lets pray, theres nothing left to do.
    but the soldier says, Ive never prayed, don't know how.
    his mate says, don't worry, I grew up next to a church, I know how to pray.
    he puts his hands together and prays.
    B4, O62, N 26 !

    better joke in person.
     
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