Hello from Dallas, no casinos here :(

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  1. ColorUp, Apr 10, 2017

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    Hello everyone,
    I've been to Vegas a few times, and just visited the Jack in Cleveland, OH. I really love the game of craps, but problem is I'm not much of a gambler. I will take $100 or $200 and usually walk away if I get down, say $50. I'm probably not giving the game enough of a chance. I've heard the term "scared money" and I guess this is the issue. I can afford to lose the money I bring, but just haven't had the chance to play with winnings yet, seems I get down a couple bets off the bat and play really tentatively from there. Would love to hear some advice.
     
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  2. HornHighBLEVE, Apr 10, 2017

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    Welcome ColorUp you'll find lots of good advice here on different betting strategies, casino reviews etc. Have fun.
     
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  3. KokomoJoe4, Apr 10, 2017

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    Welcome ColorUp,

    I like your idea about bankroll preservation, and would not refer to it as playing scared. I would instead call it playing smart.

    My own play involves getting out of the casino once half of the bankroll has disappeared. Like you, I do not play with large sums - almost always, I buy-in for $300, and get out of Dodge (or is that BMW?) when I have dropped about $150 of it.

    My spiel on the play of craps is getting old to most of the gamblers here, but I almost always play only one bet at a time, and always increase bet size aggressively, but not quite crazily, with winners, until a loser is experienced, at which point I am also ready to leave.

    This sort of quick session, in and out sort of play might very well NOT appeal to someone like yourself, who does not have craps tables close to home and who can not therefor play very often. In this situation, you want to and should play for longer sessions. That is after all what you have traveled to do.

    It will probably serve you best to adapt an approach similar to the one I describe using, IF ONLY because it has you losing no more than one bet at a time, and it still, with an openness to do progressive betting, allows for a big winner, if and when the dice tumble the way you want them to.
     
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  4. Twelve4s, Apr 10, 2017

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    Welcome aboard,

    How did you like the Jack? Did they have $5 tables?

    Sounds like you're new to the game? Getting tentative with your bets, especially if you have some loses right out of the gate is usually a smart thing. Chasing loses is always a stupid thing. Don't be afraid to walk away, if it ain't your day. With $200 buy in, you can be a grinder or drop it all on one bet. Just depends on what your goals are. Enjoy the game, either way.
     
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  5. ColorUp, Apr 10, 2017

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    Yeah, I've sticking with just a passline, and maybe a come, sometimes if the passline is a 6/8 i might place the other. So far just haven't gotten up any. But have only played a few times. I think with small bankroll, I think my main objective is too stick around a long time and enjoy being part of the game.
     
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    I liked the Jack, they had 6 tables, and all were mostly filled. Pretty relaxed crowd, not much cheering, maybe everyone wasn't doing so hot. The tables were mostly $10 with a couple $15, maybe because it was a Friday night? Well, I'm definitely just trying to grind and stick around, enjoy the atmosphere, get comfortable, and hopefully win a couple bucks.
     
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  7. KokomoJoe4, Apr 10, 2017

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    Playing as you do, you might consider letting each and every immediate come out winning 7 or 11 sit, in an attempt to either double it again with a 2nd in a row natural or, with a point established, let it sit without odds - if the number repeats before the seven shows, you still have turned $ x into $ 4x.

    This takes advantage of the one roll of the dice where, with a pass or come bet, you are strong favorite.

    Concerning the 2nd bet, if you must make it, observe a couple of rolls, then let what you see roll decide what to place. The 6 and 8 seem good because they can be made five ways, but there are times when they just do not show.
     
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    I like the idea of pressing the passline... win twice x4 $ like you say, other wise just out the original bet. Low risk way to actually make some decent wins instead of just collecting on first win. Thanks. This is something I think I could do without being nervous of loss.
     
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    Next time you're in Vegas, find a $3 table. $200 can last a long time on a $3 table. It's a good way to hang out, have some fun and learn the game.
     
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    Can you find those downtown? I played at places like Excaluber during the morning so I could get $5 table, $3 table would be great!
     
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    Fremont and El Cortez, downtown have $3 tables and out on Boulder highway there's a couple. Another idea is to try bubble craps. You can play for a dollar at some casinos, and can try different betting ideas. The bubble also has exact payouts to the penny on every bet, and keeps track of past rolls, etc. Great learning tool for a beginner.
     
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    Sounds good, while I am a beginner, I have consumed every book and youtube video I can, and feel I have a pretty good understanding of the game. It's just when I'm standing at a $5 table, or $10, I freeze up, and just am not comfortable at all. The lower limits I know would help.
     
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    Trust me, nobody is comfortable losing their money, and it's easy to freeze up at a craps table. Time at the rail is all you need to get more comfortable with all the action that's going on. Preserving your bankroll and being in a position to win, when the monster shows up is a challenge for everyone. Once you experience your first heater, you'll be hooked for life.
     
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    Welcome to the forum ColorUp!

    Nothing wrong with starting out very conservative.

    A low minimum table is probably a good way to start also. A couple low HA bets, and hang around till, hopefully, the variance starts to favor some of your bets.

    Some of the other posters here have offered some excellent low volatility strategies. You might try a pass line bet and one come bet or possibly two. Then parlay any winner one time and back to original bet.

    A point seven out breaks even, and any parlay win puts you ahead for that sequence. Of course crap numbers can interfere with that sometimes. :)

    Good luck in the future.....with a conservative play, and low HA bets, it doesn't take that much luck to get a bit ahead!
     
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    Welcome aboard. It's always tough to lose, but it goes with the territory. Shreveport's only a few hours from you. Lots of folks from the DFW area there. Close enough for a day trip.
     
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    Yeah, I went to the Oklahoma border only 45min away, but found their craps were just playing cards, a computer and a dollar ante, I didn't even bother. I checked into Shreveport and read they have real craps so I'll be heading there next!
     
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    Welcome to the forum, ColorUp.

    I think the powers that be in Texas don't allow casinos because they want people's money to go towards funding multi-million dollar high school football stadiums.

    I played at Jack Cleveland Casino in early November last year and had been there several times when it was Horseshoe Cleveland. Since the facility is housed in the repurposed (former) Higbee's department store on Public Square, it's layout isn't optimal for a casino. Still, it's serviceable and very conveniently located. You can take the Red line from the Hopkins International Airport right to Terminal Tower and walk a few minutes (inside) and you're at the casino.

    If you have any questions, ask away. There are quite a few long-time players and several former craps dealers. Good luck at the tables.
     
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    For Colorup. I know twelve4's was right on about Fremont Casino as I played and stayed there last time in Vegas. There is a few other casino handy and close on Fremont street also. The 3 buck table limits the odds you can play from what I remember. Anyway, good luck in your endeavor etc.
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    Thanks, yeah I'll definitely be trying to find low limit tables on Fremont St. I have a cousin in Reno, I hear plenty of cheap games there.
     
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    You're what -- a 3+ hour drive to Shreveport / Bossier City. You might be able to find a $5 table there during the week. Ask around, perhaps someone on this forum might know.

    I'm not sure if DeMango plays there. I know he plays in Biloxi, but that's a lot farther away from Dallas. He indicated there is a $3 table in Biloxi.
     
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