Hello

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by Frankie3, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Frankie3, Mar 19, 2017

    Frankie3

    Frankie3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2017
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Woonsocket R I
    Hi everybody new to Craps and this Forum . I'm not a gambling fanatic but I like Craps and learning fast ! Just a few questions (1) have any of you used this free program Craps Masters 3D and (2) have any of you read Craos for the Clueless by John Patrick . Thanks in advance and looking forward to learning more ! IMG_1566.JPG
     
    #1
    yacraps likes this.
  2. Frankie3, Mar 20, 2017

    Frankie3

    Frankie3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2017
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Woonsocket R I
    Wow really friendly group here 16 views not one response Is this Forum active ????
     
    #2
  3. far out, Mar 20, 2017

    far out

    far out Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2014
    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    260
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    maine
    Hey, Frankie. No I haven't read or viewed the info you are asking about. I have read a couple of small books by various authors years ago but for my views I find actually playing craps on a real casino site and observing as you play. Most here will give you encouragement but most won't tell you how to play. Your going to use your own money and face your own risks.
    Only risk what you can afford to lose. That is ,my opinion. Good ;luck my friend and good rolling.
    far out
     
    #3
    yacraps likes this.
  4. Frankie3, Mar 20, 2017

    Frankie3

    Frankie3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2017
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Woonsocket R I
    Thank you for responding , there is life here after all ! Thanks for the advise . Yes as you say " scared money won't win " and look at it as entertainment and lose only what you can afford , all wise advise thanks . I live in Rhode Island and the closet casino is Foxwoods in Conn. I plan on making a day of it there ,not playing craps but watching and trying to learn , let my wife play the slots while I'm doing that ,have a bite to eat and call it a day! After I do that then I'll go back with a modest amount of cash and get my feet wet . Thank you for responding it's like crickets on this Forum but again thanks for your advise and nice to meet you !
     
    #4
  5. random_roller, Mar 20, 2017

    random_roller

    random_roller Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    3,349
    Likes Received:
    3,700
    Frankie3 -

    Welcome to the forum. I haven't used the program nor have I read the book you mentioned above. One of the members of this forum (basicstrategy777) is the author of a craps book (manual) that has received favorable reviews from other forum participants, as well as online. You can PM him for more information if interested.

    A few tips that might help you out in the long-run:
    1. Only gamble with money you can afford to lose.
    2. See #1 above.
    3. Consider having a predetermined win/loss amount and quit when you have reached that figure.
    4. Don't walk up to craps table and throw down money without first knowing the situation and where the dice are.
    5. Know where the dice are at all times.
    6. Understand the correct payoffs for any bet before you even consider making the bet. Dealers make mistakes on occasion.
    7. Understand where your chips are (relative to other players' chips) on the table for any Place bets, traveled Come/Don't Come bets, and Hardways bets. This is very important, especially if other players come to/leave the table and chips get moved around.
    8. If you're standing next to the shooter, give him/her room to shoot.
    9. Don't make late bets (after the shooter already has the dice)
    10. Never root for Michigan in football, unless the Wolverines are playing Notre Dame.

    Good luck & have fun at the tables.
     
    #5
    yacraps likes this.
  6. Frankie3, Mar 20, 2017

    Frankie3

    Frankie3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2017
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Woonsocket R I
    Random Roller thank you for the warm welcome and the welcomed advise will use it for sure . I was starting to think this was a "'dead " Forum by the lack of responses so thanks again . The simulator that I have been fooling around with Craps Master 3 D was a free game and I just use it to get used to the rules . I also bought a 3x6 felt and laid it out in the dining room table and with a stick of casino dice I bought I have been getting used to the feel of that . There is a casino about an hour from me and soon my wife and I will make a day if it she will play the slots while I watch and observe the craps table to get an idea of live play . I have been reading so many different points of view that I'm pretty sure that there is no one solid way over another when it comes to this game . Again thanks for the welcome here and the advice All the Best Frank
     
    #6
  7. KokomoJoe4, Mar 20, 2017

    KokomoJoe4

    KokomoJoe4 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Messages:
    5,122
    Likes Received:
    3,112
    Location:
    Cranberry Twp, PA
    Welcome Frankie,

    There are a hell of a lot of wagers on the layout. While it is absolutely true that some are "mathematically better" than others, the deciding factor is whether or not the numbers you are out on are showing.

    The best advice I can give you is to find out which bets interest you the most, realizing that the safest bets, that is the ones you are favored to win, will require that you risk more than you will win. These include the Don't Pass and Don't Come , both of which can be played with or without "free odds" and the Lay bets. The minority of players play these wagers, I would guess because they amount to grind play, where you win more bets than you lose but you pay pretty dearly for the losses. Unless the wagers are relatively large, winnings are small.

    The majority of players play the Do bets, Pass, Come, Place and/or Buy, where wins are greater than the wager made. When you take odds on the Pass and Come, the winning odds are paid fairly - no take from the casino. Biggest problem with these Do bets is that most (almost all) players make a bunch of them at one time. Guess what happens to them when the wrong (and most common) dice result shows?

    There are a lot of experienced players here and most will chime in with any questions you have.

    You can also play craps online with no risk of loss at the Wizard of Odds site. Give them a look and give it a try before you head to Connecticut.
     
    #7
    random_roller and yacraps like this.
  8. KokomoJoe4, Mar 20, 2017

    KokomoJoe4

    KokomoJoe4 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Messages:
    5,122
    Likes Received:
    3,112
    Location:
    Cranberry Twp, PA
    RR,

    Does this also apply to hoops?
     
    #8
    yacraps likes this.
  9. Frankie3, Mar 20, 2017

    Frankie3

    Frankie3 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2017
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    9
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Woonsocket R I
    Thanks kokomojoe4 I will take any and all advice thanks. I have been fooling around with Crapsmasters 3 D and I will check out the Wizard of odds game . I have watched a few of his videos on you tube . Thanks for the welcome !
     
    #9
  10. random_roller, Mar 21, 2017

    random_roller

    random_roller Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    3,349
    Likes Received:
    3,700
    Only football. I love March Madness, but the regular season of college hoops isn't that big a deal for me. College football is year-round, lol.
     
    #10
    yacraps likes this.
  11. random_roller, Mar 21, 2017

    random_roller

    random_roller Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2015
    Messages:
    3,349
    Likes Received:
    3,700

    As far out first pointed out in this thread, in the end you'll find your own way and figure what is best for your particular situation. You are correct -- there is definitely no "one-size-fits-all" when it comes to craps. What might be "working" varies from day-to-day (session-to-session), casino-to-casino, table-to-table, player-to-player.

    Above all, have fun. If you're taking a beating early on, walk away from the table and take a break -- go watch a game in the bar, get something to eat or leave the casino. There's always tomorrow (although it is promised to no one...).
     
    #11
    yacraps and basicstrategy777 like this.