Hey guys is anybody else here a student of Tony Leo??

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Stuart Brandt, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. James Hall, Jan 21, 2019

    James Hall

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    I'll bet you have those moments on many occasions when you are in those
    quiet , alone times that you wish you could , just once in
    your life muster up enough shaft to top a bull and do the kind of things
    "REAL MEN DO" . Well forget it , you don't have what it takes .

    But thanks for the post
     
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  2. James Hall, Jan 21, 2019

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    Just a quick word to all the , "GROUP OF INSIDERS"
    regardless of what you might believe , I do enjoy these little
    arguments you guys gin up. It's the only place I know
    where I can get into an argument and always win.
    It's like arguing with a room full of 4 year olds.
     
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  3. James Hall, Jan 21, 2019

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    Oh and by the way twelve4s you are about the only one left
    all your group has me on ignore , they just can't handle the heat.
    I guess they want you to stay behind to tell them what is being said ,
     
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  4. Ronald Prince, Jan 21, 2019

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    You look pretty good for your age !!
     
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  5. TDVegas, Jan 21, 2019

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    Watch the first video. This will give you a window into Tony’s gaming skill level.
    Watch from 1:20 to 3:15

    The 2nd video is the guy TDVegas takes gaming lessons from here in Vegas.

    You tell me.



     
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  6. Ronald Prince, Jan 21, 2019

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    No...But I sure like his style...I'll take that course for sure....
     
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  7. Ronald Prince, Jan 21, 2019

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    Hey TD Vegas...That is a frickin Mansion, Vegas style.
    What is he charging you for...Pyramid power in the Garden ?
    Very Cool Place...
     
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  8. TDVegas, Jan 21, 2019

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    Charge? He only takes in total ANY losing wager I make in craps and pays out any winning craps wager I make minus the small vig he takes.

    He does the same for you, bone thrower and any other craps player you know.

    Some gig, eh?
     
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  9. Ronald Prince, Jan 21, 2019

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    Quadruple WOW !!
     
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  10. Morgue, Jan 21, 2019

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    @Stuart Brandt , you’ve just disavowed any advantage Ellis has and you’ve moved on to the next scheister. When will you learn?
     
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  11. DeMango, Jan 22, 2019

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    I think Stuart should go visit Mesa. Six lessons stand between him and the vault!
     
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  12. Stuart Brandt, Jan 22, 2019

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    I did not disavowed any advantage Ellis had but after 400 shoes it turned out to be 50 50 thats what a 50 50 game it supposed to be over the long term.
    Baccarat is a 50 50 game so we are supposed to win 50 percent of the shoes even if we play one side only be it PLAYER or BANKER this of course would be over the long term not just a couple of shoes.
     
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  13. Stuart Brandt, Jan 22, 2019

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  14. Mssthis1, Jan 22, 2019

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    The Kelly Criterion only works IF you have an advantage. On a game where you don't have an advantage or believe you have an advantage that doesn't exist in reality, it only extends play time. You'd make smaller and smaller bets until you finally went broke.
     
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  15. Stuart Brandt, Jan 22, 2019

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    IS CRAPS A 50 50 GAME AND WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF PASS VERSUS DONT PASS.

    I know the 12 is a push so what are the real odds guys????

    Dice Influence should get you at least 2 percent so I have heard.????
     
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  16. Stuart Brandt, Jan 22, 2019

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    By the way I do have a one tenth of one percent advantage on BACCARAT.
     
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  17. DeMango, Jan 22, 2019

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    How?
     
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  18. DeMango, Jan 22, 2019

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    Sign up for Heavys class in Biloxi and quit wasting time here. Buy a good book on craps. Do your research. Wizard of Odds is a great start. There are no short cuts.
     
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  19. TDVegas, Jan 22, 2019

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    I think Thorpe had stated many years ago that card counting wasn't effective with baccarat. Nor have I ever heard of anyone playing advantage baccarat.

    As noted above.....how?
     
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  20. TDVegas, Jan 22, 2019

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    No.
    1.36% vs. 1.41%. For every $100 wagered you are expected to lose $1.36 or $1.41.
    12 is only a push on the don't pass. It's a loss on the pass.
     
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