Hey guys is anybody else here a student of Tony Leo??

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  1. tabletop123, Mar 6, 2019

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    Not to be argumentative, but TD If.....and that's a BIG "If" a person COULD MAINTAIN a LONG TERM SRR of 6.3...with the proper funding....they could play craps for a living. Actually, it works both ways.

    If a person COULD MAINTAIN a LONG TERM SRR of 5.7...THAT would work as well.

    Standard Deviation is a plus or minus two?
     
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  2. DeMango, Mar 6, 2019

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    Just 10X, only IP has 20X. From dealer scuttlebut, Island View and Silver Slipper also.
     
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  3. TDVegas, Mar 6, 2019

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    LOL...you're allowed. This is how the boat moves forward;). Now, if James chimes in...we know the boat will be moving in reverse.
    Right...it's well beyond my scope to take a 10,000 roll SRR of 6.3 and transform it into a viable money making opportunity. I'm not so sure it's as easy as bet right side or dark side numbers without sound money management, betting strategy, bankroll, Kelly criteria issues explored first in conjunction.

    I know goatcabin had put up some numbers long ago on WofV...but I'm not sure anyone has taken a 6.3 or 5.7 and "guaranteed" a money maker type living. I could be wrong.
     
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  4. DeMango, Mar 6, 2019

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    Not that many di’s do this but if you have both with different sets then you use 5.7 comeout and 6.3 point cycle. Or reverse for don’t side play. Play a D’Alembert system on the pass or dp and retire to Venezuela or Cuba
     
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  5. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    Nope not at all . Like I have said on many occasions ,
    most of what I post is not opinion based fact based , you choose to trivialize
    those facts and in your mind view them as opinion and
    of course you hope everyone else will as well.

    Yep
    Too a very small degree a person could be fooled into
    believing this but then they don't understand that you view
    everything as mere opinion , fact or not.
    I know you have many people on this forum convinced that
    they can determine if something posted is fact or simply opinion
    but SUCH IS NOT THE CASE.
    A FACT will remain a fact regardless of how you wish
    to characterize it. You seem to be laboring under the misconception that
    if you decide a fact is merely an opinion it must then be merely an opinion.
    And so it should be , YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT ALMOST EVERYTHING.
    You love to start arguments but you always choose the wrong side.
    Those are FACTS not opinion , I don't deal in opinions .
     
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  6. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    A reader may choose to accept it as fact or not accept it.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Mar 6, 2019

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    Right. What are you not understanding about this? The READER chooses.
     
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  8. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    It could also be very conservative , you have
    no way of knowing either way.
    You don't know that he couldn't , perhaps like tdvGAS you
    have a very strong opinion that playing on that level is IMPOSSIBLE.
     
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  9. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    You think 6.3 SRR is impossible , WHY?
     
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  10. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    IT DOES especially for a "STEPPER"
    A trained shooter , knows when to play , when not to play and
    especially he knows when to back up and regroup .
    a tactical withdrawal . A "STEPPER" has the patience to win.
    A , "STEPPER" knows when to attack and when to stand down.
    No I know that there are some players who need to be alone to play
    a STEPPER a REAL STEPPER doesn't care ,
    Just give him the dice , Stand by and WATCH THE MAGIC unfold
    All this playing on empty tables stuff is for DRAMATICS.
    A STEPPER gets on the table , does what hew has to do and then
    HEAD FOR THE HACIENDA.
     
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  11. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    Random outcomes , next to meaningless.
    That is what practice is for , to establish what to expect.
    If you can get there once you can again.
    Eash and every time they will work with RANDOM PROBABILITY
    We already have that information , figure it on actual DI outcomes.
     
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  12. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    That is one of those opinions you are so proud of
    :)
     
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  13. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    You could clean up with an SRR of 3.8865
     
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  14. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    Is that fact or opinion??
     
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  15. von duck, Mar 6, 2019

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    I totally agree, nobody should make a lot of bets on bubble craps, or even a single bet, for that matter. :) Nobubble, nobubble, nobubble................:cool:
     
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  16. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    There ya go , drop us a line when ya get to Venezuela.
     
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  17. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    That's what I said ,I agree with you , HE CAN CHOOSE to accept it as fact or not accept it.
    Either way the choice is his.
     
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  18. James Hall, Mar 6, 2019

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    How about , "Make casinos , BUBBLE FREE ZONES
     
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  19. The Midnight Skulker, Mar 7, 2019

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    This is a characteristic of losing progressions that is rarely recognized. Wins that occur at the higher levels of them look very impressive, but what is oft forgot is that the house has been playing with "player money".


    Anyone who can count to 36 can come up with a betting strategy that wins more times than it loses. The casino doesn't care how many times you win/lose; its only concern is how many dollars you win/lose.

    Comparisons of craps to sports are made on occasion, so how about this one to golf: medal vs. match play. The casino counts strokes, not holes.
     
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  20. James Hall, Mar 7, 2019

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    Then they begin the downward spiral by winning less
    with each additional win instead of more
    They are playing the , RIGHT GAME. Craps players would
    fair much better if they would learn to
    BET HOUSE MONEY in place of their own.
     
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