Hey guys is anybody else here a student of Tony Leo??

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  1. TDVegas, Mar 7, 2019

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    Speaking as a regular player. Not once a month, nor once every 2-3 month player.

    Cover 20+ vs. -16 uncovered....and even a higher coverage percentage? I can only report on what I witness as a regular...those covering more rather than less are taken to the cleaners over the long haul. If there are players out there making a profitable go of all across and then some...kudos. While I see it work, have seen it work, have seen it pay very well....the regular, long term prognosis from what I personally witness...is generally not good when Jan 1 - Dec. 31 P/L statement is revealed.

    As bubble craps has a very clear "coin in"...."coin out" P/L statement available if you use a card....I have issued a friendly, "wink" challenge to those who deride my 2-3 number play at RR with "you can't win playing like that"....with "how bout we compare our P/L statement at end of year?"....So far, none have accepted the offer. I'm quite sure I know why.

    If someone can make all across work as a regular, consistent play and or even an iron cross...kudos. I haven't seen it. I've seen it work here, there and otherwise...but the craps players I see on a regular basis employing it...whew. Ain't good.

    No disrespect intended for those who like more action when they play, like to get paid or have action on every roll or those who feel they can tilt that 5%-6% house advantage in their favor.

    Cue in James Hall...."this is only for a random player. For a stepper, it doesn't matter".
     
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  2. Stuart Brandt, Mar 8, 2019

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    Yes I have seen many place money across and WHAM seven after seven takes all that money away and they get killed.
    ITS LIKE A SONG POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA.......................LOL.
    THE SAME HAPPENS TO most DI,s just as often.

    I have a personal local friend who was a big dice setter who would play and do fairly well to over time give up on craps and NOW PLAYS TEXAS HOLD EM AND does very well he says I play the person not the cards or table.
    Because he was lured by the you get paid better on placing numbers instead of playing the DP and making a steady profit because we all know ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME FOR....................SEVEN OUT PAY THE DONTS.
     
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  3. Stuart Brandt, Mar 8, 2019

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    ITS LIKE A SONG POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA.......................LOL.
    ITS LIKE A SONG POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA.......................LOL.
    ITS LIKE A SONG POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA.......................LOL.

    I HAVE MENTIONED ON THIS FOR TO MANY I HATE PLACING NUMBERS IT JUST SUCKS.


    ITS LIKE A SONG POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA POINT SEVEN OUT LALA.......................LOL.
     
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  4. Edward-ky, Mar 8, 2019

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    This guy I knew would play dark a lot of the time and his play was basically 30 flat on the don’t and Continual 30dc bet and would take odds usually 30 odds and would increase the odds whenever he got picked off. It worked pretty well except when someone rolled a lot of repeating numbers.
     
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  5. Dave G Ct, Mar 8, 2019

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    You cannot be serious.You would get destroyed unless the table was cold or you got lucky and scored on a CO 7 after a point is made.You do not keep replacing your DC' s .Lunacy
     
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  6. Edward-ky, Mar 8, 2019

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    The guy had the bankroll and he also didn’t always play that way. If the table seem to change he would change to the right side he also played the bonus bets no matter which side he was currently playing.
     
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  7. Mssthis1, Mar 8, 2019

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    For those who feel the come bet sucks, the don't come should be the cats meow. You have to hit the same number twice to lose.
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Mar 8, 2019

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    I sawva guy playing similiar. He would bet $25 DP w $30 odds and take $88 inside.He would put $25 in the DC and when one of his bets hit take it down and lay $30 odds.A roller coaster.He was saved big time on CO 7' s
     
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  9. TDVegas, Mar 8, 2019

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    I see it work very well at times. For some reason, I see it work better than continual come bets. Obviously, there are times it will get whacked. Like yesterday.

    The game of craps is a marvel. 2 players sitting opposite of each other. Both play the exact same time and same betting amounts, one right side and the other dark side....and both are expected to lose.

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    The ironic thing...those same people who claim the come bet sucks because "you have to hit the number twice to win"....will tell you the don't come bet sucks because "too many 7-11 come out losers".

    LOL....
     
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  11. TDVegas, Mar 8, 2019

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    Real time.....

    to triple parlay or not?....hard 8.

    Polling commences...you've got 20 seconds to decide. I'll post the following sequence.

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    So close....

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  13. Mssthis1, Mar 8, 2019

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    Are those pictures from today? I need to know because the machine I play here uses the same Algorithm as the one at Red Rock and we're heading out after supper. ;)
     
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    Yesterday....but still within the 24 hour period.

    If I'm right...play the 8's:);)
     
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  15. James Hall, Mar 8, 2019

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    No comment.
    $5 on hard 6 and hard 8 for me and the dealers
    parlay twice rack $5,000 on third hit.
    I made $26 on the 8 so we're good,
    That is just a win win for a , A "STEPPER".

    That's a case where it can go either way BUT
    either way it goes I win,
     
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  16. James Hall, Mar 8, 2019

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    Love those trends , that's where the real money is
    on a $5 table four 9s = $108
    on a $10 table four 9s = $348
     
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  17. The Midnight Skulker, Mar 9, 2019

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    In The Before Time a regular poster steadfastly claimed that taking or laying odds was a "sucker" bet. We never did convince him that if one side favored the house the other side had to favor the player.
     
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  18. Mssthis1, Mar 9, 2019

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    A lot of it boils down to bankroll. If you have a decent bankroll taking or laying odds is the best bet in the casino.

    If your bankroll is $100 it's still a good bet but the odds are in the houses favor that normal variance will wipe you out before you can wipe them out.

    I've always said I could set up a game that paid true odds on every bet. $10 min $100 max bet with the kicker being $100 was your maximum daily buy in and my table would make money solely from variance and the poor money management skills of most people..
     
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  19. yacraps, Mar 9, 2019

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    "Eight skate who will be the one to donate"...hopefully it will be the house donating to Mssthis pockets good luck and killem ;)
     
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  20. TDVegas, Mar 9, 2019

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    Bubble has been on an 8 tear.....or was it me?;)

    Upside 4-4, 5-3, 6-2....center bubble only, 8-12 seconds in or until dice have migrated to the hit position, quick pressure on the hammer, making sure both dice are stationary on felt at "push" and not in the air.;)

    Screw the guy telling me "just push the button immediately".

    He sevenout out in 4 rolls---3 times. There's good reason for the line below this one.
     
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