How Many Rolls Per Session?

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  1. Mugs050, Feb 22, 2016

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    For your style of play. How many rolls on average do you play for before you either hit your stop loss or make your desired return?

    My Style...

    Stop Loss: 57 rolls
    Desired Return: 14

    This is a new style I have been running. Desired return is 25% of starting bank roll on a PL regress/progress strategy.
     
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  2. Speedracer7, Feb 22, 2016

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    My style of play does not use a Total Rolls approach. I set a Loss Limit and a Win Goa, using a percent of my session money, 50% for both. If I hit either......... I quit. Sometimes it is hard to do. But I try to leave the table in either case, color out, and cash in at the cage. Take a 30-60 minute break, and then return to the table with "new" money, for a new session.
     
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  3. Mugs050, Feb 22, 2016

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    I guess the question was more of how long does it take to hit your stop loss or make your return. Hard to know if you don't keep track though.
     
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  4. Onautopilot, Feb 22, 2016

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    I don't count much of anything at the table except maybe my chips on occasion. I don't wear a watch, haven't since I retired. They don't have clocks in the casino, and I never carry my phone into the casino.

    I play till I have either won enough to satisfy me at the time, or lose what I set aside for that session....or I get hungry, or have to go pee.

    Having to go pee is getting to be more frequent as the years go by. :)
     
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  5. The Midnight Skulker, Feb 22, 2016

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    And takes longer I've discovered. :(
     
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  6. basicstrategy777, Feb 23, 2016

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    No matter how long you shake it and make it dance.....the last few drops end up in your pants.

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  7. Titleistguy, Mar 22, 2016

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    Typically have a stop loss of 50% of my buy in.

    I bank my profit as I go. Meaning if I buy in for 2000, and say I'm up 150, then I'll play the next 50. If that goes then I leave with my 2100. If the 50 gets me up over another 100 threshold, and I can maket the table min for an additional buy in above that, then I do. I just make sure that I'm not breaking that next lowest 100 denomination in order to keep playing.
     
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  8. wonko33, Mar 22, 2016

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    why don't you buy in for 1000$ instead and leave the rest in the bank?
     
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  9. Titleistguy, Mar 22, 2016

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    Good question - and to be honest its because you never know. I typically stay to my 50% limit, but say I'm the next shooter up, and want to shoot again, then I'll wait and shoot again, taking me below 50%. There have been times when I've tapped into that theortical stop loss and came back. Typically I don't, but I'm a human, and a gambler, and sometimes I want to keep playing. There are times when I'll have the 2G's on me, but only buy in at 1G, and the action of reaching in my pocket, and re-buying is usually a good check and balance against continuted losing.
     
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  10. The Midnight Skulker, Mar 23, 2016

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    I do something similar. I structure my stake so that I have a third in cash, and another two-thirds available as cash advances (with daily limits) on different credit cards. Yeah, we're not supposed to use the ATM, but my story (and I'm sticking to it) is that it's OK so long as my plan incorporates it. The philosophy is to force me to leave the table when I have lost what's in front of me, which gets me out of the flow casinos attempt to suck you into. Sometimes a funny thing happens on the way to the ATM: I get lost and wind up in my car.
     
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    25 percent of my bankroll and then I am out for sure.
     
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  12. Badcompany12, Apr 28, 2016

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    I do not bet all the players. I give myself 3 rolls to make something happen. If I'm hitting my points and have 10 rolls or better on a given shot I will be making money. I keep track of each roll and count in my head. Do not write them down because I do not want attention brought to me. I also put chips into my pocket, so all of my profits are not recorded. I'm a pitcher and everyone gets tired physically and mentaly.
     
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  13. Bullcorn, May 23, 2016

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    I play till I have either won enough to satisfy me at the time, or lose what I set aside for that session....or I get hungry, or have to go pee.
    Every craps game I'm at for over two hours, because I drink a lot I have to use the restroom to go pee and Every time I miss out on money because it takes me so friggin long to pee, I got to get my prostate checked, that or don't drink so much while gambling.
     
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    The quote from OAP was what I'm referring too
     
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    This determination is not made by the number of rolls but by the number of chips after each roll. In other words, you can hit your goal after one roll but will not hit your stop/loss after one roll (unless you are going "all-in") Since you can hit your win goal quickly, your strategy will require high levels of discipline because it takes discipline to leave.
     
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  16. betwthelines, Jun 12, 2016

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    it's a funny thing but does get to some of the posts here...

    the "utility of the money" sets my stay-or-go criteria (there are usually breaks tho and <sigh>, alas, yes, the pee breaks are much more frequent these days)...

    i like-demand in fact unless there are no other options, (cf oz et al)-a $5 minimum or less table, yet ironically my initial try is with $10 (odds i mean) as that is the (minimum, tho it could be more depending upon current winnings) bet if i am even, which of course one is at the start, or ahead...

    what is "funny" is that if i start out onna good win, i usually end up witha bad loss---and vice-versa...thus i never limit myself based upon the outcomes of the initial rolls..."as we all know"--not!, they indicate nothing about future outcomes...

    this "start-out-winning-end-up-losing-and-vv" no doubt is a "gamblers perception" , almost always faulty...but it does seem to go that way...

    tom p
    -g. geist; and your point?
    --tom p: nothing
     
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  17. nura.leoniva, Jun 16, 2016

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    Yep. I suggest, it`s right.
     
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  18. twodicebilly, Jun 28, 2016

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    number of rolls,


    I have no idea why you would determine ahead of time
    how many rolls you would have before you leave the casino,
    or even worse how much money you would expect to have
    at the end of those rolls.

    That is the mythical approach many random players have
    to proving dice control....Lets see I average $25 dollars
    per hour in winnings so I will play 4 hours and have my
    beer money for the day.

    I look at my shot, and if it is good, can I get the results I
    need to make a profit with the dice on the table. If I can
    I take that profit and leave. I see no reason why I should
    buy in for more than a couple of hundred dollars because
    if I cant find it by that time, I should be home anyway.

    You can make $2000 on a $300 buy in and you can
    make $50 on a $300 buy in, but what you cant do
    is lose $2000 on a $300 buy in.

    twodicebilly
     
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  19. tabletop123, Jun 28, 2016

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    I am to the point wherein i have tossed Dice SO MUCH, that i give myself ONLY one hand to "Warm Up", & after TWO turns with the dice, if nothing goes my way, then it's just NOT my day & i end the session Guess this way of tossing dice has transitioned over from my MANY days of playing pool on the road! Right before a Match, we'd hit 10-15 shots, & then put the money in the middle! The late, Great, Grady Matthews once chimed: "Hit roughly a million pool shots(Correctly) & ONLY then will You have a GENERAL IDEA of what it takes to become a Good Pool player! Same thing can be said for THE RELEASE of a good Dice Toss. Whether you believe in SLIGHT influence or not, it takes roughly a million Dice tosses to get your release "Just Right"! So...... who the fu.....k is gonna toss a million times just to master a release that is MOSTLY fleeting, & may very well amount to nothing? Idiots like.........
    TableTop! Lol.
     
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  20. tabletop123, Jun 28, 2016

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    I had a session yesterday wherein i set the 3V, & tossed 21 6&8's during a 36 roll session. What are the odds of doing that? Returned two hours later & it was 2-3 rolls, coupled with MANY PSO's! Lol
     
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