How to always win at poker

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  1. Craps Poopshoot, May 29, 2017

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    I meet two poker pros at the Bellagio. This is all they do; play poker. I asked what is their strategy...

    This is what they said:

    Only play weak poker players. If a player looks like they know how to play poker, don't play and leave.

    That is the strategy... Find dumb, drunk or new poker players and take thier money.

    This is not the first time I heard this strategy from a local, but my first time talking about it
     
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    That's the cardinal rule for poker players....never play with anyone that is better than you...period! I used that philosophy for years in the California poker rooms!

    But now, with all the smart ass college kids, it's hard for me to find that scenario! :)
     
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    That's EXACTLY my strategy for playing Craps. If I cannot find a Dumb/weak table that is dumping money.......I don't play ( or play, lose, & QUICKLY quit before losing too much money).

    Problem is that every table that I have encountered ( as of late) has been smarter than friggin Einstein, & Stronger than fu**king Hercules! Lol
     
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    If you don't know who the mark is at a poker table, it's you.
     
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    It's a great strategy, no doubt. But like all gambling strategies, it's not foolproof. I've seen more than a few terrible players get stupid-lucky.
     
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  6. Onautopilot, May 29, 2017

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    And we love it when they do. :)

    Just insures a continuing flow of money from then on.

    In the real poker pro circles, you will hear many of them say that in tournaments, luck plays the biggest roll.....but being good at he game insures the steady income.
     
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  7. betwthelines, May 29, 2017

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    this is an opinion only--ie i have no data to back it up--but i believe that there are far more professional poker players than peoples realize.

    many of these do not participate in many, if any, tournaments and one of the reasons possibly for that was mentioned in this thread: there is too much luck involved...and never mind the higher pct of good players as things move up.

    so you do not see them on tv but i believe there are a few that derive as much income from poker as those you see at the final table...it is a near-daily grind for them...it is their job...the bad players and most others do not know who these peoples are (one of many reasons that they are bad players...lol)

    there are thousands of poker rooms in the country...virtually all vegas-type casinos have one but even some of those decreasing number of states that do not allow vegas-style casinos, allow some poker rooms...i suspect that most of these professional poker players prefer to stick close to home but should they get the "feeling" that too many are on to them etc, do not hesitate to range further.

    as with any profession, it takes dedication, constant improvement of skills and hard work but they are out there...and more of them than you might realize...anonymity, discreetness and a closed mouth are imperatives.

    and never mind the internet..

    tom p
     
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    And I have seen my share of those "other" poker pros. California has had card rooms like forever, and a lot of them.

    And a funny part of it all, even when the other players started to realize they were over matched, they continued to play against some of them....I guess it was a misplaced ego thing, and just a tad of stupidity. :)

    I have played in games where there were several other players that were either better than me or as good anyway. But we had an understanding, never verbally, or anything, just a mutual respect, we just tried to stay out of each others way for the most part.
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, May 30, 2017

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    Love how everyone is an expert or a pro, regardless the field of endeavor.

    There seems to be a serious shortage of amateurs, neophytes or mediocre personnel who in reality make up the world we live in.

    Call the experts. Apparently there are plenty of them.

    Sorry to get off track Poop. It is true that poker is a game of skill, but it still requires holding better cards than the guy across the table from you, and I would not use the word "always". Nothing is always.
     
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    I certainly do not consider my self to be an expert poker player, but I do think that I am a smart player. I can choose the games I want to participate in, and stay as far away as possible from other games.

    Also, A skilled poker player has the advantage over the mediocre player even when the good hands are unequally distributed in favor of the other player......Value betting, bluffing, and when to fold 'em based on the tells and past actions of the other player. He will win more on his good hands, and lose less on the bad hands than the mediocre player will.

    The only real time they need the best cards, is on an "all in" hand....there is where luck often times trumps skill.

    The mediocre player should stick to "show down" when they are playing in the shark pool. :)
     
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  11. KokomoJoe4, May 30, 2017

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    An expert can be bluffed just as easily as the mediocre player, but all things being equal, the more skilled player will win at the game of skill.
     
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  12. Craps Poopshoot, May 30, 2017

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    This gal I know who lives here in Vegas is a Pro poker player. She subscribes to the OP strategy of Poker play - only play weak players!

    She plays in the California Card Rooms, mostly in the Silicon Valley area, because she said that nobody will really put up much money here in the Las Vegas poker rooms and I am guessing because of all the local poker sharks looking for a fast buck lurk here in the Vegas shark tank.

    Lets face it, silicon valley guys with more money and less common sense will sit down and play poker with a reasonably attractive girl every time because they think they can beat her. She simply said that she waits for the right person to come in and then she sits to play, otherwise she is waiting and waiting.

    Local poker pros only play in tournaments where the casino is putting up the money.

    A lucky player that beats you once; can beat you twice! A pro player who has a strong hand and is beaten by lucky noobs will simply leave the table after that beat.
     
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  13. Onautopilot, May 30, 2017

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    You definitely have it right this time....poker is a game that certainly can be beat! And there are a lot of pros that are doing just that. It is a game of skill, unlike the random chance games that the casinos offer.
     
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  14. TDVegas, May 30, 2017

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    Poker pros in Vegas (the truthful ones) will admit it is a very stressful way to earn bank. The problem a pro has is THIS is his income. He HAS to make money. He doesn't always have the option to just leave a hand. Many pros will admit to playing hands that an amateur or tourist would toss or they themselves would toss under normal play circumstances....not out of want but out of necessity of having to make money.

    I think it was pro Jennifer Harmon here in Vegas who said anyone thinking poker pros are leading a fun life are sadly mistaken.

    As the bread winner...she has admitted the stress of playing and having to make that mortgage money, car money, food money, health insurance money is not so easy...even for the very best. Sure there are many who hit the jackpot and have a lot of breathing room. It's a very tiny percentage of those actually playing for a living and trying to secure a weekly win....to pay the bills.

    As a side gig....poker players (good ones) can make a few extra bucks spotting bad players. That is because poker is a game of skill incorporating luck as well. I would say playing as a side gig (not main source of income) allows much greater flexibility to make a few dollars.
     
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    No shortage of them (mediocre personnel) voted into office at the State of Illinois / Cook County / City of Chicago governments.

    What is required is having the others at the table *think* you have better cards than they do. Bluffing (and correctly reading an opponent) are a big part of being successful at playing poker. Of course, if the player next to you has a Royal Flush, not much you can do in terms of bluffing.
     
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    How true, how true...even more so in internet gambling forums.
     
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    OAP -

    YOU are a TOTAL moron to elude to the concept / deduce that Craps / Black Jack are random " Games of Chance " ! -

    YOUR ignorance is ONLY superseded by TDVegas and Dave G CT !

    Because YOU are unable to achieve an advantage over the house -

    Does NOT mean that it is unattainable !

    Go fly your drone !

    $...eE..$
     
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    Hitting the bottle kinda early ain't ya snake....or maybe it's a little late. You crack me up, if you have an advantage at the craps table, why the hell are you here posting this drivel when you could be taking all those chips off the table......can you say DELUSIONAL!
     
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  20. Twelve4s, May 31, 2017

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    Thanks for the flashback.

    Early 70s, $1/2 seven card stud game at Holiday Inn on the strip.

    First and only time I ever saw a royal flush. Poor guy only made about $100 on that hand, since most everyone folded.

    So even getting the best hand in poker, is no guarantee of making $$$.
     
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