How to profit from Craps

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  1. Liman

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    I guess being from new York I laugh at these type of street hustlers, fuck them, and if they get in my face, I tell them to fuck off.

    how can someone shove a cd in my hand. it would fall on the floor.
    costume characters, who gives a flying fuck, if I wanted a picture, Id give them a few bucks.
    perfume, who would buy that stuff?

    the only really, realy annoying pieces of shit are the creeps shoving their hands with girls, girls girls cards in your face and make it near impossible to walk.
    My last trip to the strip with my wife in april couple years back, I had to slap away one of their arms as he didn't move. He mumbled something, I told him to go fuck himself in Spanish, and then called him a mofo in Spanish.
    Im amazed the police don't make them move off the sidewalks, as it is a hazard and super annoying.
    not to mention it causes a tremendous amount of litter, which ofcourse, its not the hand out guys, its the people they force to take the cards.
    the annoying hey, are you visiting, would you like to receive a free gift?
    90% of those annoying dice clock freebie hawkers are gone from AC, guess AC really died and its not even worth it to them anymore.
     
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  2. yacraps, May 4, 2017

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    EXTRAORDINARY variance ;)
     
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  3. TDVegas, May 4, 2017

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    If anyone is walking down the strip..you're going to get approached by the hawkers, cd sellers, time shares, perfume hawkers, card slappers, etc, etc.

    I tell people to just ignore them all. If you hear "excuse me" in the distance....don't look back, don't make eye contact. Keep walking. Once you give them your ear, they are going to try and hook you.
     
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  4. Twelve4s, May 4, 2017

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    Another option, avoid the strip altogether.
     
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  5. lone irish digit, May 4, 2017

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    You guys got it all wrong. Card slapping and street hustling are just advantage plays (AP) used by hip visitors and professional local Vegas craps players. It is a proven AP which is utilized to get funds for additional craps buy-ins after suffering a losing session because of crappy dice and the such. Who would pass up free money. I was kindly introduced to the art of card slapping by these guys who said they were Hardley and Supperick at last years post-ACA.


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    It's Las Vegas man, they have to figure their odds of find a "fish" are pretty good. Where would they be better?
     
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  7. betwthelines, May 5, 2017

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    i have no doubt that your statement is most generally true.

    however for drawings at the local joint, if you are logged in at table games (ie craps in my case), you are also eligible to win...i myself have won drawings of $200 and $2500 (on the same night!!!) and last year $1500...these obviously are quite nice but you do pay taxes on them (i did not get a W form on the $2C however.)

    i mentioned on post #53 of this thread that i had "won" a speaker worth $5C...this was not a drawing but rather a very, very good thing for me that they had going where they brought in some bose reps and one could buy a selection of their shit using one's comps! since i had way more comps there than i could ever possibly use, this was an outstanding thing for me!

    with full intention of selling the shit, i bought in addition 2 other speakers worth about $200 each, which sold quickly on craigslist...i still had enough points to buy over $1k more and why i did not really does escape me now...

    this was back in november or december and since i had initial thoughts of keeping the big speaker and my 3 month winter wander interruption, i did not get around to trying to sell it until this week...that story is, again, on post #53.

    another interesting win which i had also mentioned inna different thread happened upon my very first visit to the hard rock in biloxi and, while at the craps table on the very first drawing after i got there! this was much more modest where one drew from a hat and could win from $100 to $1000 in free play

    of course i drew the hun.

    tom p
     
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  8. Liman

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    a reason I don't find much appeal for the strip or the casinos there.
    there odds are all shitty, 3,4,5, the food prices are outrageous, and its crawling with creeps.
    and hotel rooms are double what they are off the strip or in Henderson or boulder city
     
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    Things have really changed. In the old days, I allotted my time about half downtown, and half on the strip. Walking around the strip was a fun and pleasant experience back then....oh, maybe a panhandler or two on occasion, but no real bother. I think "the boys" discouraged that activity around their "houses". :)

    Corporations seem to be blind to it....and a lot of other things also.
     
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  10. KokomoJoe4, May 5, 2017

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    Two of these three guys definitely do NOT put me in the mood to head off to the strip joint or nunnery.
     
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  11. The Midnight Skulker, May 16, 2017

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    The late Al Krigman addressed this phenomenon a few times in articles he wrote for Frank Scoblete's e-rag Casino City Times. A cursory search of that site unearthed the following which, despite discussing the side bet in Caribbean Stud, applies to all bets that offer serious payouts for what the "investor" considers peanuts.

    The popularity of the side bet is the triumph of utility over probability and the dominance of volatility over edge in the short run. Table game players with modest bankrolls wisely worry about busting out in a short cold streak. The Caribbean Stud side bet is only $1. Even at a $5 minimum, the buck seems like throw-away money compared with the combined $5 Ante and $10 Call bet on the main game. You could lose 15 side bets before they had the impact of one low pair gone sour. And, a single side bet win can recover a lot of main game losses. Then, of course, there's the idea that what seems like chump change puts you just a hand away from a limo to Easy Street. Probability? What's that?​

    Back when I was a member of Corporate America I spent three weeks in Thailand shuffling between Bangkok and my company's job site outside Map Ta Phut, a place that would have been a wide spot in the road had there been a road. (I would alternate spending a few days in Bangkok and a few days in Pattaya, the enclave of civilization closest to the job site.) The office in Bangkok was across the street from the hotel where I would stay, but I still got accosted by a street hustler with a multi-picture accordian foldout en route at 9am one morning.
    "You like young girls?"
    "Naw, it's a little early for that," was my reply.
    Out came another foldout. "You like young boys?"
    "Um, no. It's way too early (mentally adding 'as in a lifetime too early') for that!"​
     
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  12. KokomoJoe4, May 16, 2017

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    Ah, scenic Map Ta Phut, not to be confused with Wat Ta Phuc. Liked the way you humored the guy out to make a buck in the morning. Reminds me of a walk I took to the "casino" when in Montego Bay a few years ago.

    The "casino" is an effing game room, complete with pinball machines and a pool table. :eek: Nearly shit when I realized I walked over a mile for that.

    Both ways, was accosted by several businessmen, one wanting to paint my picture, one to tell my fortune, a couple to provide some medicinal pleasures, and one whose sister really liked me and wanted to show me how much.

    Declined all offers but did give the artist $5 and told him I'd be back with my wife for a portrait in about a half hour. Hope he's still not waiting.

    Jamaica is the only Caribbean destination I did not enjoy, and it wasn't even because of no gambling. People there were super aggressive, constantly looking for ways to get you to part with some money. Very little of that at any of the other islands I've been to.
     
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  13. Liman

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    panhandlers and hustlers unfortunately are part of the inner cities, anywhere, in any country.
    we all know this.
    what always amazes me is that las vegas, whos only economy is tourism to support gaming, there is little law enforcement that stops any of it, at least not enough that Ive ever noticed.
    And as annoying as it is, it doesn't seem to put a dent in the tourist trade.

    its all going to change, in approx. 20-25 years when the baby boomers start to die off or get too old to go to vegas.
    with outrageous prices, the newer generations withi limited funds to gamble, will head off to destinations like beach resorts in mexico, Dominican republic, even places like florida, since gambling will not interest them 1/10th as much as the baby boomers.
    Gambling by then, will be in every single major city, and if some 28 y/o wants to gamble, they will find it 10 minutes from their home.
    partying, drinking, will be found at places that wont be charging 350 dollars a night for a room on the strip where food prices are equally ridiculous.

    las vegas will once again have to reinvent itself, or the casinos will crumble.
    nothing happens fast, 25 years, it will start. one by one casinos in vegas will fold.
    rooms will start going down fast, comps way up. by then casinos will be making deals with airlines, buying blocks of seats to give to lowly craps players like myself, at my level.

    supply and demand.

    my parent purchased a house in queens NY in 1967 for 32 thousand dollars, and it came with all appliances and storm windows!
    now the houses on the same street, same homes, are reselling for close to one million dollars.
    Casinos are going to have the opposite problem in 20 years from now in vegas.
    Way too many rooms, way too few people to fill them. Casinos will be empty besides the I have 100 dollars to play slot machines this weekend crew.
     
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  14. Grizzoola, May 16, 2017

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    Not a bad prediction. Allegiant already has deals w/ casinos, but that could die off w/ more casinos available "at home." Still, Vegas does have a mystique, that intangible asset that's unquantifiable. People still gather for photos at the base of the "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas" sign, like tourists all over the world at other famous sites. Whether they are enough to support the infrastructure of Vegas is another story. Maybe Vegas, or rather the Strip, in 25, 30 years, will be the largest ghost town in history! There'd still be the tourists.
     
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  15. The Midnight Skulker, May 16, 2017

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    A few decades ago Wife #1 and I took the cave tour at Oregon Caves National Monument during which we were given a demonstration of total darkness. I have heard that visitors to Wat the Phuc can experience total nothingness. There is purportedly some risk associated with the experience, however: those wandering too far from the "ออกจากเมือง" sign -- it is all but impossible to distinguish "town" from "not town", even for locals, hence the sign -- are rarely seen again. Furthermore, no one seems to know how those who disappeared got to "town" in the first place.
    Before Wife #1 became Wife #1 we visited her mother on Jamaica. She was based in Kingston for a few months as part of a British-led education exchange program, but whle we were there she took leave to accompany us on a multi-day tour by train around the circumference of the island. Montego Bay was one of our stops, and Allah be praised she was with us! Without her to fend off the "guides" we surely would have been abducted...I mean, escorted...on a tour of what that tourist trap...I mean, fair city...had to offer.
     
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  16. The Comeback Kid, May 16, 2017

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    Man: "You like goats?"
    Barney: "Lead the way, my good man."
    ...never too early for goats.
    (CBK - taking the forum to a woe nudda level.)
    Sorry, couldn't help myself.
     
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    I recall reading that Barney raises goats, but have until now been unaware of any amorous issues.
     
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  18. Twelve4s, May 16, 2017

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    Really?

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  19. basicstrategy777, May 16, 2017

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  20. KokomoJoe4, May 16, 2017

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    WTF does this have to do with Barney?
     
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