I play a special method on Pass Dont Pass.

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  1. Stuart Brandt, May 1, 2018

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    I never post what I won in units but let us just say 10 green chips is my goal most sessions, I live 4 hours from the nearest casino which is Harrahs Cherokee, at 250 miles one way I would have to profit 500 a day to make it worth my while.
    With Baccarat I can make 500 a week from my bedroom with online play at Bethoenix and Fivedimes, but man its boring.

    Craps is like going to Englishtown and watching TOP FUEL DRAGSTERS HITTING 275 MPH ON THE DRAGSTRIP.............................VERY EXCITING.

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    Why do you think you can't win without seeing into the future ??
    explained after the fact ??
    Bet the trends , get on at the beginning bet it till it ends
    Learn to do that you can stop betting to break even
     
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    How many units did you profit with these throws? :cool: In a follow the trend scheme, it generally takes a run of 3 to show a profit of one. Not a bad, way to play, but not a winner, long term. :)
     
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    :confused: :cool: It's not like that at all.
     
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    If I buy 4.. can I resell at 89.99 :rolleyes:
     
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    I agree with that. I find full tables rather boring. Must be why I don't go to horse races or drag races. Minutes of watching preparations for a few seconds of action doesn't interest me.
     
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    I've seen plenty of days that have 0 resemblance to that chart. Almost any system would work if the dice always resembled that chart. It's way too close to an expected distribution with all the outliers missing. Some would call it "more random"

    Dice can stay irrational much longer than your funds can stay liquid.
     
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    After the fact I can engineer a system to make millions???

    That is exactly what DI is about
    Practice tossing , chart your outcomes , find out
    what numbers you are more prone to throw
    "ENGINEER" a betting strategy to capitalize on those outcomes
    Foresee the next roll or group of rolls ???
    A skilled Di can sometimes create this situation with diligent practice
    Take that to the bank / casino

    Use the same set , toss the same way
    This is how trends are born . All you have to do then is bet them from beginning to end
     
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  9. Stuart Brandt, May 2, 2018

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    I have seen tons of DI guys throw down money and leave broke its a FALSE hope in my opinion random makes profit, I have not seen a DI person yet who can toss a seven in the six rolls yet on purpose, ever on purpose.
    So to me now maybe you can throw a few more field rolls but to ward off the seven coming is not going to happen.

    Also the longest rolls are always Random Rollers not dice setter even great dice setters.

    Look at my results from my Pass Dont Pass Decisions

    If I get ten Donts in a row great because I am on any streak, chops great love em, terrible twos great wonderful.

    EVERY PASS OR DONT PASS DECISION IS ONE OR THE OTHER........................... ztuesday craps results.jpg ......A REPEAT OR AN OPPOSITE THATS IT.............ITS NOT COMPLICATED. OR IS IT.

    S t u a r t
     
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    "ALWAYS" ----"NEVER" pretty definite terms
    Only random rollers can have big rolls ???? ,

    What would cause a DI to get worse results than a random shooter?

    Every pass or don't pass decision , is one or the other?
    That is logic that would be more than difficult to dispute
    I don't know how anyone could have an intelligent , logical argument against that
     
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    I have seen tons of system players go broke on the bubble machines because they believe they have less variance than a live game or they are "more random" as some like to call it.
     
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    Just yesterday we had an awful, awful run of 7 outs. 9 of the 15 rolls on the board were 7. Out of no where....next guy hit 9 pass line winners.

    Two of them had been playing the don't and I assume doing well for a time....but oh what a turn.

    Anyone suggesting they can predict where and when it will turn is bullshitting, IMO.

    Unless.....;)
     
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    You are absolutely correct there
    On a machine it WOULD BE difficult
     
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    I can predict one thing the Pass and the Don't Pass will be a repeat or an opposite that's it I don't play any other bets at this time.


    I forgot to mention I don't play the Don't or the DO I just play whats winning who cares about the rest come on guys it's not that complicated.


    But I will say one thing for all intent and purpose it is a 50/50 shot it is going to be Pass or Don't Pass........................yep 50/50 thats just the way I like it lol.
     
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    I can predict that also since it's the only two choices.

    I have thousands of bubble rolls recorded, 48 rolls on a page. I can post a page and then and you can predict what the first result will be on the next page if you desire.
     
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    This P/DP system appears to be a re-hash of a Silverstone method of play that we discussed a couple of years ago.

    Don't recall what it was called, and it involved three levels of play, one of which uses a seven step martingale. The basic play involved alternating between P and DP, depending on previous outcome, without the use of odds.

    Presented as a can't miss system, actually a smoke and mirror crock of bullshit since it involves a negative expectation game of chance.

    Trust me, if Leonardo Fibonacci can not devise a system to beat the games of chance, he is not going to be outdone by Stuart and Ellis.
     
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    A full D’Alembert would bring home more bacon.
     
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    I have seen quite a few who can roll multiple sevens on the come out, myself included. But with the ATS, you are fighting yourself. Must need to hop em.
     
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  19. Stuart Brandt, May 2, 2018

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    Yes please I would like to take a look at the rolls and compare to my hand random tossed over 5000 rolls just to see, do you also have if it was a pass or dont pass win???

    Give me a call would love to chat with you 4342515007.
     
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  20. Stuart Brandt, May 2, 2018

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    Really I dont try to beat anything I just want to make 10 units profit and Ellis looks to make at least 12 units profit.

    Randomness is accurate in theory, but statistics is backed by actual results of play and documentation.

    Craps is a totally random, non-dependant, negative expectancy game of chance. Which means the casino knows over the long haul they have the mathematical advantage over the player. Theoretically, if a player gambles continuously for weeks, months, and years, his bankroll is destined to ruin by the casino’s build in win advantage or “vigorish.” However, as an intelligent, knowledgeable, and disciplined player and precision shooter, things are not as forbidding as the mathematicians would lead one to believe. First, the player will not be playing continuously 24 hours per day every day. He will limit his time and capital exposure, then use his methods to maximize his chance to capture a profitable trend in the ebb and flow of craps decisions. Always, the player will employ smart money management to conserve and protect his bankroll against adverse trends in the game. Realistically, the player should experience many trips to the casino with profitable results.


    IF YOU EXPECT TO LOSE YOU WILL.
     
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