Is betting $88 inside or $128 across just a bad strategy (or whatever $$ you are comfortable with)?

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  1. falcon, Jul 11, 2013

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    Amen to that, MS

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  2. tabletop123, Jul 12, 2013

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    I like Falcon"s strategy.!!!!!! HE is basically stating to tip toe in and tip-toe out!!!!! Personally even though I (THINK) I can influence the dice, I still bet very low and very cautiously because no matter how good you think you have it(you are still playing a negative expectation game. You better learn the three most important words in craps(TAKE ME DOWN PLEASE!!!!!!!! Whats wrong with two hits and down? I know some of you action junkies think it is a boring way to play(AND IT IS), but a lot of times that move will take you home a winner.TWO HITS AND DOWN< NOT TWO HITS AND REGRESS. I look at it this way: if I have lets say $120.00 inside and I get a hit on the eight (THATS 36.00) then I get a hit on the five (that's 42.00) why would I want to regress and give anything back for that hand? I know the shooter can shoot for another hour, but if that is the case, why not lock up your two hits, let a few rolls go by and then (maybe) jump back in the fray at 22.00 inside. (SEEMS PRETTY SMART TO ME!!!!! DOES IT ALWAYS TURN OUT THAT WAY? ABSOLUTELY NOT),but I think that playing cautiously will prevent large lossess and help to preserve your bankroll for another day!!!!!!
     
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  3. falcon, Jul 13, 2013

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    Something happened with the text that made the whole entry smaller. Will try again later.

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  4. DeMango, Jul 18, 2013

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    Had an interesting few hours with the Falcon yesterday. He was quite my good luck charm. Decided to meet at crapless at Steve Wynn's old stomping ground in Biloxi. I bought in for $500 and was well into losing it when he showed up. Had a few good hands one of which included back to back $25 bought 12's which net [email protected] hit. When the tide turned and I got bored, I colored up slightly more than $100 profit, a good 1/2 hours pay! We decided to be shills at a $10 MS stud table, no one else there. I was again proceeding to lose the $500 buy in, again down to $150 or so, when a second player arrived. The tide turned with a vengeance. Dealt pair of 10's, dealer draws Q, Q, 10!! $1000!! Table fills up with 4 players and two lookers including Falcon. We are trying to maintain a conversation including what's the deal about the pass line. It's tough with the casino throwing money at me. Case in point. Have J, 9. Dealer draws Q, 8. I put out the last street bet, minimum, at $10. Lunacy overtakes me as I announce the dealer will turn over a 10 so I need to triple my bet. I triple, she turns over a ten. A little later I get dealt Q, 6. I tell the Falcon she will turn over a Queen. She does!! I am so overtaken with my prophesy, which I announce to all, I didn't even see her turn over 6, Q!!! Two full houses inside an hour!! A few plays later an elderly couple, he ain't playing, get pocket aces and triple up. Nice for them until the dealer turns up 3 deuces!! Three Full Houses in an hour!! The whole table gets paid. After things quieted down a bit and I gave back several hundred, I colored up with a $1600 profit. Fun times with the Falcon!!
     
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    The only good strategy in craps is to bet the low house advantage bets and as much odds as you can afford.
    Forget placing all the numbers and put multiple bets with odds on the pass/come or don't pass/don't come.

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  6. wegottagetaroll, Jul 20, 2013

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    88 in ... 132 across ... just like any other bet. You need to catch a favorable roll! Just promise that when you do catch that roll you'll be ready to do some pressing. When I see a guy throw for 30 min and people still have the minimum on their place bets a little part of me dies inside ;)
     
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  7. Grizzoola, Jul 20, 2013

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    Well, you're talking from hindsight. How can anyone know a hand will last 2, 10, 30, 50 minutes at any point in the hand? Players have various bankrolls; they have to take care of it, in whatever way suits them. This nonsense re: pressing, regressing, progressing bores the hell out of me. No one knows when the 7 will show. Some think it will show soon; others, later. So be it. Some will be right, others wrong. Who's to judge? I do believe, however, that advice to take down/turn off bets after one or 2 wins is valid.

    I bet PL/Come w/ odds. Prevailing advice is to take full odds on each. I can't afford to lose that. I think taking/laying odds to the fullest is the quickest way to leave the table, broke. No, I believe that advice to take down/ turn off, etc., bets after one or 2 wins is a good strategy. Wish I'd have done that my last trip to the casino. :p
     
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  8. jason1981, Jul 20, 2013

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    Here it is man, as I am sure any craps player will tell you, bet what you feel comfortable with...nobody can tell you what this number is but you...right side bettors are looking for a long roll, don't bettors and looking for that quick 7 out..make your bets and stick with what you do and have fun...if win or lose you aren't enjoying yourself quit playing....grant it wins are much more fun than losses, but that's just how the dice roll!!
     
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  9. falcon, Jul 22, 2013

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    My meeting with DeMango last week was the affirmation of this statement. He played; he had fun; he rejoiced with a win; he was carefree and even cavalier with his wagers; he was himself and true, and in the end, it was all good.

    Our meeting was a lesson for me to just enjoy and stay loose.

    Thanks, DeMango.

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  10. DeMango, Jul 23, 2013

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    Falcon; Couldn't have done it without you man! I'm wondering if I should wear that shirt at a casino? Don't want to piss off the boxman, never wise up a chump! Question: Was I setting the dice on pairs or sevens on my run?
     
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  11. falcon, Jul 23, 2013

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    First, I was just a witness and enjoyed the "run" and your excitement. Second, I have worn a similar shirt at the tables, and the dealers and patrons ALL were wishing they had one too. I also have commented (joked) that I wear it to Weight Watchers meetings or this is my Weight Watchers shirt. Nobody yet has said anything detrimental. Third, let me say that your sets and tosses were extremely quick. There was never any hesitations or fiddling as is often the case with virtually every DI or "setter" I have witnessed. Your sets were for the most part pairs, usually 6's or 8's.

    Hope to see you again soon. Just got offered a trip by the Beau for Sept 22 - 25.

    falcon
     
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    I think DeMango and Falcon should start looking for furniture!

    Fred
     
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  13. basicstrategy777, Jul 24, 2013

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    Fred.....That was funny.

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  14. falcon, Jul 25, 2013

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    YES IT WAS!! We also have picked out Sterling silver patterns.

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    I'm glad you guys saw the humor. Regardless, good friends and good times are rare and to be treasured.

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  16. AtGame7, Aug 6, 2013

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    I know some time has passed since I've been in this thread, but I have been toying around with this strategy and am liking it a good bit. I like placing the point as well to hedge against losing the Don't Pass odds bet, but is there a reason you place the point instead of putting the $10 as odds on your Pass Line bet?
     
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  17. falcon, Aug 7, 2013

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  18. AtGame7, Aug 7, 2013

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    Everything there is very clear, thank you.

    I have been "tweaking" that strategy just a bit before I head to Atlantic City next week. I like that it is actually a FO bet rather than a place bet. I have also been toying with the idea of trying to pick up three or four bets per shooter and then take everything down.

    I had been using that idea on it's own with just $88 inside. It seems to be working well enough on it's own, but if I incorporate it with your strategy I think I may have something that keeps me in the game for a long time on minimal risk. It does however keep you from smashing it on a big roll, but how often does that really happen?

    I have it almost finished and will post here when I am done.

    Thank you again.
     
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  19. DeMango, Dec 21, 2015

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    Speaks for itself!
     
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  20. tabletop123, Dec 21, 2015

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    So, Demango, what became of the Falcon? Wasn' t he residing in my neck of the Woods?
     
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