#1- Forum Member(s) meet one another for a friendly conversation about Craps. #2- Those conversations are shared among fellow members who are already 'The Group'. #3- These members turn... sour... on this new or old member. #4- This Group will spend much of their time, bad mouthing this member. Now on the Outs. #5- This goes on as long as this Forum Members posts, reacts to a post, or might be reading posts. Meet and Greet. If you do not want to be introduced to the "Group", you are now the target. Unless, you are smart and know what you are talking about, defending yourself. I am focused upon Bubble Craps and the piece of lumber and layout, called a Craps Table. Both require intelligence and Craps Skills. One is not preferred over the other. They are both Games of Chance. One is not more superior to the other, elbow to elbow at the Craps Table, or the Bubble Craps. Bubble Craps actually is a bit more... difficult, due to the wagering on a computer screen and not glaze eyed upon finding your wagers on a Craps Table layout. From following current threads... I do not need any Craps Friends or Buddies off of the Forum. I will not alter my opinions for... 'friends'. I do not discuss Craps, except on a Public Forum, as my words could be taken to mean about anything and posted as person to person "QUOTES by SevenOut". I get it. TDV obviously made the mistake, as myself. Some others, as well. If someone were to say the things that have been said to TDV and several others... you will be lucky if I show you to the door... while it is open. Those at the present, know who I am speaking. A couple of you are fresh in my mind. I enjoy debating Craps, but if you cannot focus on Dice and a Craps Table... remove me from you list of... SUCKERS.