LF a Dice Coach

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  1. SSJHAWKER, Mar 22, 2019

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    Im looking for someone in the Niagara or Brantford area who can teach me some dice influencing or at least show me what im doing wrong
     
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  2. tabletop123, Mar 22, 2019

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    Go west young man. When you reach Arizona, ask for a guy named James Hall. He is the real deal. He has been endorsed by none other than Superrick, & Two Dice Billy.

    Mr. Hall is known all over the country for his Vault Assaults, & his uncanny ability to whisk in & out of town REGULARLY, turning $42 into THOUSANDS.

    With only a six lesson commitment, he can show YOU TOO how you can live a lavish lifestyle, playing craps only when you need money, & how to use Dice Influencing Math instead of that DREADED Casino Math that is is designed to kick your Dick in the dirt.

    Mr. Hall can also show you how the Mesa gang disregards a $42 loss by simply " Walking" away from the table, & considering the loss as only a temporary loan given to the Casinos UNTIL their return to the tables to work the Mesa Magic.

    As an added bonus......." How to become a Chick Magnet" will be instructed FREE OF CHARGE to all those that sign up before June 1, 2019.

    Mr. Hall also awards a genuine " Chick Magnet" Belt Buckle for any attendee's that toss 25 consecutive rolls WITHOUT a seven.

    Plane Transportation available for those that qualify.

    Hurry.....while slots are available
    Call 1-800- Minimum.
     
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  3. KokomoJoe4, Mar 23, 2019

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    What are you willing to pay the so-called teacher?

    Do you think he will know more about dice than you?

    Do you think that there is something that can be learned regarding getting dice to show particular outcomes?

    Is it possible to influence dice outcomes? Is it possible to control them?

    What makes you think that you are doing something wrong? You are gambling. This involves risk.

    Why do you think it is that a so-called dice teacher teaches dice tossing?

    Because he is good at it? Because he likes all of his students? Because his students pay him money? Because he likes to gamble, and it is easier to gamble with someone else's hard-earned money than with one's own money?

    Good luck gambling. Save your money and gamble with it, rather than giving it to a so-called teacher.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Mar 23, 2019

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    Not advocating for it...necessarily, but doesn't the teacher think it's HIS hard earned money if he dedicated his time and knowledge to helping someone?

    "Helping" or not being the key word....but from HIS perspective, he IS helping, therefore it's HIS hard earned money. We can also debate the merits of what is hard earned....this isn't hard labor. Nevertheless.
     
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  5. Dave G Ct, Mar 23, 2019

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    Your time is worth money. Choose a DI coach wisely.That is why on one of my threads " Where are the success stories". Now I have seen success stories on Don't s board. On Heavy' s board hard to remember any. Just my take.
     
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  6. Dave G Ct, Mar 23, 2019

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    GTC craps board. Dominator' s
     
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  7. tabletop123, Mar 23, 2019

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    Success stories on the GTC board? Says who? Rumors of success? Unsubstantiated stories? NOT saying their aren't any success stories, but what have YOU seen personally?

    It's been touted that Dom, & Frank are banned from tossing dice in all of the Mississippi Casinos, because of their shooting prowess.
    It's also been touted that their banning had absolutely nothing to do with their shooting prowess but moreso because of the DICE Influencing Seminars that they were holding in the Casinos.

    So....which story is true? Ya see what I mean? Much easier to validate, or dismiss as a first-hand eye witness. Stories?......Salt, grain, take.
     
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  8. James Hall, Mar 23, 2019

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    In case you haven't noticed , there are some very angry people
    on this forum who play craps , can't win but won't quit.

    Read the posts take what you think might help and
    discard / disregard the rest. I would have to think there
    are people in your part of the country that could help.

    You might check with some of the schools in Vegas , they
    might be able to make some suggestions as to who you might
    contact there where you are .

    You are doing the right thing however ,
    Find someone who has developed the skill and get them to help you.
    Avoid people who would try to discourage you from doing
    what you want to do and what you might want to do.

    Cice influence is not easy , it takes a ton of work. but contrary
    to what the , "GROUP OF INSIDERS MIGHT TELL YOU"
    Do the work it can be done.
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Mar 23, 2019

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    Dom says his playing.As to success stories I see posters who have stated his classes have changed their game. Yes anecdotally.But look on Heavys board - nobody burning up the tables.
     
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  10. James Hall, Mar 23, 2019

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    Some people require that , people with a little success and
    a bit of faith in what people can accomplish don't require
    so much eye witness proof , they know from
    personal experience what is possible to do.
    Those who have fewer successes find many things
    difficult to believe . It's mostly a matter of experience.
     
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  11. James Hall, Mar 23, 2019

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    What it actually boils down to in essence is
    People who have succeeded at something believe others can also .
    People with no success in that same endeavor have a very strong
    tendency to believe nobody can make it work.

    The old adage , "SEEING IS BELIEVING" is not accepted
    by the majority on this board.
    Over and over again they see people setting the dice and tossing
    them with the intention of influencing the outcome , yet no
    matter how many times they see this happen
    the naysayers will deny that DI had anything to do with the outcome and the win.
    So what I am saying is ,,, No matter how many times some of these
    negative skeptics see it happen as an eye witness they continue to deny.
     
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  12. Grizzoola, Mar 23, 2019

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    Trying to dissuade people like Hawker from believing in DI is like trying to dissuade a devout Catholic, Muslim, or Jew from believing in God. Jacob has set no limits on what or who can post on this board, and that includes hucksters and suckers. In business parlance they comprise a "market" that invites investment and participation.

    I know many on this board are trying to deflect these "believers" from their chosen "religion." I agree w/ them. DI is not for me, either. But, if this is a "free-for-all" board, let it be that. Let Hawker, et al., post their "needs," and let JH and all others who think they can "help" them make their pitch for "business."

    After all, there must be some kind of "industry" in this DI thing, as apparently "schools," "seminars," books, etc. seem to be flourishing. As P.T. Barnum famously said, " A sucker is born every minute." It's the way of the world, guys.
     
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  13. SevenOut, Mar 23, 2019

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    "proven me inaccurate"?
    are you a computer or a 50 year old nobody retired from autozone?
    go fuck yourself worthless piece of shit. go bother someone else you waste of space.
    i have more experience of being a mechanic in one finger than you do in your whole body. don't tell me how to do a job that you know nothing about.

    *******
    Above comment:

    I needed to reset my Check Coolant Additive on my F350 Diesel truck. The above is a cut and paste of a guy who was wrong and the expert was not believed.

    I have to side with James Hall. He added some good points. There are limits that anyone can learn and then physically perform with dice control. Much like the slight of hand card dealing. It is so smooth and appears easy... but is far from being easy. Being... smooth... is the SKILL.

    Like Grizzoola, DI is also not for me, but if anyone can make it work for themselves, they may be wasting their time trying to pass on the information and 'seeing is believing'. Also... I do not have any edge with my shooting or others at a table to improve my odds, as we are also having to understand HOW to wager with the DI's expected outcomes.

    If a DI is competent and shooting for outside numbers... and I am wagering on the inside numbers... it is not going to work for me. My game and the expected outcomes are not compatible.

    Better for me to WATCH and leave Craps to those who enjoy whatever success they may find.

    Dealers can be trained to Take, Pay and Place with classes of Procedures.

    Players can be 'educated' as to various Systems that include checks and balances to a game.

    DI is these and more. Practice and understanding outcomes, deviation of the dice from expectations and HOW to make changes in the Dice Sets. It takes more than setting the dice. I have never been at a classroom situation, so cannot even discuss or give an opinion.

    I have watched a couple of shooters that have made me curious, but not convinced there is any consistency. Their wagering does not exhibit... confidence in their expectations.

    Much like slight of hand... it is a skill set with years of practice. Many consider it 'magic'. There is no magic when one can be consistent and winning more often than not.

    For myself. Seeing is believing. System understanding is most important. Bankroll management, next. If someone can improve their dice outcomes that are favorable, great. But it takes the first two for everyone. The DI aspect... that is the icing on the cake and most Craps Players cannot bake a cake very well.
     
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  14. James Hall, Mar 23, 2019

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    Pitch for business???
     
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  15. DoubleTapDave, Mar 29, 2019

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    I am not far from you and can trach you all you need to know about Dice Influencing. Hit me up
     
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    I can vouch for this guy, he is an excellent "TRACHER", and can also tutor you on speling. :)
     
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  17. TDVegas, Mar 29, 2019

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    I'm reminded of the sales pitch I received where the seminar included a dozen double negatives. I couldn't find the door fast enough.

    Throw in a few "if it ain't busted....."

    And a few others who got past 9th grade were following me.
     
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  18. badddoin, Mar 29, 2019

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    Well, I'm available. I think $400.00 per hour plus expenses is a reasonable rate. PM for details.
     
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  19. James Hall, Mar 29, 2019

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    Some are pretty tough
    No matter how many people , and no matter how many times those
    people try to convince a DI he can't do what he is doing.
    Some continue on while some over time and after a lot of criticism
    by the naysayers begin to believe that maybe the , "NAYSAYERS" ,
    are right and for some reason they begin to believe that
    they can't do what they are doing and they quit.
    I think the , "NAYSAYERS" may be slightly ahead in the game.
     
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  20. DoubleTapDave, Mar 29, 2019

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    I Am a firm believer in Dice Influencing but Do Not think it is worth paying big money for lessons. It is not a guarantee and not everyone can do it. And even the best DI"s in the world have a slight edge on the casino at best and must maintain extreme discipline on other shooters , table conditions etc to be successful.

    Having said that I am a coach by natural trade and love teaching people how to play craps. Especially the dice influencing portion of the lessons.

    I do not live too far from where you are talking about and would be willing to teach you all that I know for a couple hundred. PM if interested

    DTD
     
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