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Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by cubs4700, Apr 11, 2017.
It is not polite to make fun of Ms Pee, like that, Sir.
Thanks Mr. Hall...dang concrete guys cant get nothing right Fred P use to help me I must not have been making mistakes ....or maybe making so many he just gave up.... I enjoy Freds and your posts as people
I only posted that because the other day I posted something and typed aint and spell checker suggested "AIN"T" that was the first time I had
seen that before
Yeah Fred has mentioned several errors of mine also . Things like spelling , grammer misuse of words
I kind of enjoyed our exchanges , I think Fred probably got quite upset but he seems generally like a nice enough fellow
Actually Mr. Hall spell checker does that to all... aint don't cant I was having so much problem with the server that after I typed it I hurried up and posted while I could
See spell checker fixed don't but not aint or cant and I cant find the asteric on my key board
what did the spell checker say about that one?
I never talked like that until I started hanging around this forum
Okay I think I have the correct discussion here, it is about the Low Risk Craps video by StageTechMarine. I found it necessary to point out a few wrong quotes by this guy. Any "drakside" bets, Don't Pass and Don't Come bets, can be taken down at anytime. Mr. Marine stated that you can't take it down. Wrong comment by him. The second and more important statement by Mr. Marine is about the odds on his Don't Come bet. The bet only pays even money if you win. He stated that on a $75.00 bet you will win $150.00, technically that is wrong, you only win $75.00. I also need to point out that any "Odds" bet on the Don't Pass and Don't come side, the odds are reversed from the Passline odds. True odds on the Passline 4 is 2 to 1. You put up odds of 1 and you win 2. The Don't Pass odds for that number is the opposite, you put up 2 to win 1, and so with the remaining odds of the Passline. I am not a fan of the way Mr. Marine plays craps. The key to any table game in any casino is money management and know the game you are playing. Also in craps, the bigger any wager is advertised on the felt, the bigger advantage to the house.
I want to point out a few things to "cubs4700", about StageTechMarine's video. He is incorrect about taking down your Don't Come bet. Any "Darkside" bet, the Don't Come and Don't Pass bets can be taken down at any time, as too on the Pass side, with the only exception of the original Pass Line wager. If you lay odds on the original bet even the odds can be taken down at anytime. The only bet that must remain is the Pass bet. The next thing that he is incorrect with is the winnings of your Don't Come bet. It pays 1 to 1. Technically you only win the amount of your bet, you wager 75 you win 75. It may total 150 however you only win 75. The odds on any crap table is the best bet in casino because the house has no advantage. Keep in mind that what the odds are for the Pass bets are reversed for the Don't Pass bets. Example is, the odds for the Pass Line 4 pays 2 to 1, meaning you put up 1 and you win 2, on the Don't Pass side you put up 2 to win 1. All Pass Line or Pass and Don't Pass or Don't Come bets pay even money. The odds are different. I am not a fan of the way STM suggests yo play. The key to any Table game in any casino is money management and know the game you are playing. There are trends and ups and downs on any table game you play so be aware, pay attention. I personally play the Don'ts and have used a system that has made me a lot more money than monies I've lost. If you want it explained email me at, [email protected].
I'm not sure that last statement would hold true for the COME bet.
Not withstanding the Pass Line and Don't Pass Line bets... Sorry.
There is really no low-risk craps strategy. All strategies leave you the hopeful underdog.
In simplest terms, if you want to be favored for all the long term decisions, bet DP and/or DC. Just don't count on winning all of the delayed decisions, there will be plenty of those that you will lose in spite of being favored. A further problem are those pesky 7's and 11's at come out.
If you want an opportunity for a "good" bet, go out on the Pass or Come, where you will hopefully have your share of come out winners, and where you have an opportunity for a nice win if loaded with odds when your number comes back. Unfortunately, you will lose more of those odds loaded wagers than you win. The key here is to hit a few of them in a row.
As a famous guy once said, you can not expect to win, but you can, and you should play tough.
I think his mistakes in not being able to take down your don't come and saying you "won" $150 goes hand in hand. I don't think he is indicating you win 2-1 but he is counting the original $75 as a "win" somehow. I do find this method interesting and am thinking about using in my upcoming trip to Vegas. I have played a lot on a craps app and have had pretty good results. It seems like if you lose a don't come in most scenarios it is because a lot of numbers are hitting. I don't replace my DC like he does I just ride out the table in that instance. It has saved me a lot where I have backed my pass line with triple odds and have place bets across and immediately seven out. Instead of losing everything on the table it is a push. I don't think it is that bad of a strategy to try out. Others may disagree.
Very true. Yes the house edge is against you, but in the short run you could experience a big swing one way or another. It's important to have a Take Profit and Stop Loss when playing so you can determine your own session's risk/reward. You can certainly simulate the approach so that you can at least have some sort of expectation and figure out what a reasonable amount of drawdown you can handle would be.
Just booked my flight to Vegas for Super bowl. Super excited to get out there and shoot some craps. Staying 2 blocks from Casino Royale so i can be close to the action. Thinking about learning that Iron Cross someone in here was talking about. Hope to see some of you out there.
Iron cross and martingales are probably the fastest way to empty your pockets on a bad day, and they come often lol.
Just get 3 place bet, up a unit, collect twice. Parlay, collect, parlay, collect,...
Thanks Freddy, you know i was just watching this guy's, I think he calls himself "color up" video on youtube on the iron cross. I would say he had a few very unusually long rules and he profited nicely but i thought to myself "hmmm how much more would he had netted if he was getting odds on his 4 that he kept hitting".
Now i don't have a ton of money but i can buy in for a few $300-$500 games. I don't need huge action and don't make prop bets, but i don't want to grind out a $26 win and retire to the buffet either. Seems to me it would not be a bad strategy to go pass, odds, inside and then after a few hits expand to outside. Hell what do I know? Im not really a dark side player especially when folks are having fun at the table. I do like a good time.