MP' s 2 finger UH journey

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by Dave G Ct, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. superrick, Aug 30, 2017

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    No, you guys got to realize that the Leach's casino is his bed and little box.


    In no time at all the Leach will find some other stupid shot and make a big deal out of something that will not work for him!
     
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  2. Dave G Ct, Aug 30, 2017

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    . Your rant is getting old.Go feed your seeing eye dog before he bolts.
     
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  3. Edward-ky, Aug 30, 2017

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    I have a question Dave have you ever met or talked to or played with MP?
     
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  4. Dave G Ct, Aug 30, 2017

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    No but I have learned his shot
     
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  5. von duck, Aug 30, 2017

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    4/10 verses 7 is a 50/50 thing Dave, of course you will hit runs of 14 or more, once in a while, it would be an anomaly, if you did not.:cool:.I do it, you do it, it's no great feat, man.
     
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  6. Dave G Ct, Aug 30, 2017

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    Von Duck. 14 of them is not 50-50.I can see why DeMango is losing patience with you
     
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  7. von duck, Aug 30, 2017

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    I didn't say that you have a 50/50 chance of hitting 14 of them. My point is and was, that in a 50/50 proposition, there will inevitably be some long runs. It would be anomalous, if you did not encounter such a run, they are IN the math. If you can produce a couple of these a day, then you could win big. A run of what amounts to 14 coin flip winners in a row, does not in itself, indicate, any abnormal influence, it simply doesn't, Dave.
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Aug 30, 2017

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    They were mostly On Axis 4&10' s which may indicate influence.
     
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  9. von duck, Aug 30, 2017

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    There is absolutely no way, for me to determine, if there was or was not influence. Just there would not HAVE to be, that's all. Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't.
     
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  10. Dave G Ct, Aug 30, 2017

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    Fine I could live with that
     
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  11. superrick, Aug 30, 2017

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    Nobody, has ever met him, the Leach is living in La, La Land and so is anybody else that thinks the great fiction writer Mp could do anything that he wrote about like his SRR of 28 and the fact that he never posted one photo that he took. They were all ripped off of the internet.

    Yes, DeMango there was some good stuff that Mp ripped off from others but that is what you get when you are ripping off others stuff.
     
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  12. Edward-ky, Aug 30, 2017

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    I can't see idolizing someone I never met or even talked to.
     
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  13. KokomoJoe4, Aug 30, 2017

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    Back to the books Dave, and take Dano with you. We have discussed this topic a number of times.

    The reality of the situation is that unless you know dice speak, you know nothing about the concepts of on-axis and primary face hits. In fact, what you think you know about these topics can easily be shown to be inaccurate.

    Your one-dimensional visual understanding of 16/36 is a fantasy created by dice schools to sell their bullshit, which in fact has NOTHING to do with either on-axis shooting, primary face hits, or reality.

    You can prove this to yourself simply by holding and rotating two dice. Once again I will try to show you a major problem with these topics as you define them.

    Say your pre-set is 2V with 1:3 on top and 5:5 looking at you. You skillfully toss the dice, and they come to rest with the same 1:3 on top and 4:6 looking at you.

    According to your thinking, you are on-axis and have a primary face hit.

    In reality, you are off-axis and have a "primary face hit", which by definition, MUST be on-axis.
     
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  14. tabletop123, Aug 30, 2017

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    The reality is that from the Pre-set configuration in the above referenced post, ( Only as a reference point) both die flipped inwards, & now Ya are in the Parallell 6's set with 52/52 on the Axials, but, but, but.....the Casinos pay on the top numbers, & that's what counts! Lol

    Just leave it be Koko......Dave wouldn't understand the reality of On Axis if you wrote it in Crayon, or explained it in Baby terms.

    TRUE On Axis only happens about 2-3% of the time. Shhhhhhhhh!!!!
     
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  15. DeMango, Aug 30, 2017

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    Well one out of two would pay really well in baseball.

    The unfortunate thing is Irish and Maddog explain things really well on Heavy's site, this is not a teaching site. But Linaway has his theories and the rest of the dice world has on axis theory. By Linaway's theory only one dice result can be on axis. 2.78%. On axis posits 16 results no matter how the fuck they got there. Easy Peasy
     
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  16. Dave G Ct, Aug 31, 2017

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    Got to agree with DeMango on this since they pay on outcomes.Koko you are right that a PfH may be off axis.
     
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  17. KokomoJoe4, Aug 31, 2017

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    We all know that numbers showing on top define the game. No one has ever disputed this.

    Our disagreements have centered not on this but rather on the specifics of DI. That is, if it occurs, how does it occur.

    The DI instructors have proposed that 16 of the total 36 dice outcomes show to be on axis, relative to the pre-set status of the dice, and that, when obtained at outcome from this pre-set, these 16 outcomes can be classified as primary face hits, relative to the pre-set axis of rotation.

    The other 20 possible outcomes are all off-axis and as a result are not primary face hits.

    According to the so-called experts presenting this material, the random roller can expect 16/36 = 0.44444 = 44.4% on-axis results. However, the trained DI, who is taught by experts to keep those dice on-axis, can, with patience and practice get this primary face hit percentage up to say 50% or higher. The experts will show you how this can be done, possibly for a price.

    The entire guise of DI proposes to make a negative expectation game positive, for a price, by teaching the shooter to keep those cubes on axis.

    I hope the example using the easy four in post 73 above clarifies how idiotic this concept of on-axis shooting really is. What it shows us is a primary face hit that is off-axis. If primary means on-axis, how is it primary, even if it is the SAME result?

    Doesn't this prove that there is more to the explanation than the experts propose?

    Note: The game does not change as a result of this information, but certainly one's understanding of the dice does show that on-axis and the concept of 16/36 does not reflect reality.
     
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  18. Dave G Ct, Aug 31, 2017

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    Getting back to the MP 2 finger.Since my adjustment which will remain " dark matter' I am back to hitting PFH' s.Now back to Foxwoods soon.
    BTW sort of miss Gargoil' s posts in DI
     
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  19. superrick, Aug 31, 2017

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    Why is that Leach, is it that your looking for more help from someone that doesn't just shoot or their bed?
     
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  20. Dave G Ct, Aug 31, 2017

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    Where am I looking for help?
     
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