My first Craps books via amazon

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  1. TG Parker, Dec 15, 2016

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    The dice doctor Paperback – 1990
    by Sam Grafstein (Author)
    Subtotal:$4.50
    Shipping & Handling:$3.99
    Grand Total:$8.49
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    Casino Craps: Shoot to Win! Paperback – May 1, 2010
    by Frank Scoblete Used/Like New
    Subtotal: $3.24
    Shipping & Handling: $3.99
    Grand Total: $7.23
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    Both books were in AWESOME "Like New" condition. The Frank Scoblete book even came with an un-opened DVD "8 Physical Elements of Dice Control".

    I have other books on order, I'll let you all know about them as they arrive.

    Any suggestions re: good Craps books?

    Best wishes! Woohoo!

    TG
     
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    Learn to Play Craps from Part-time Dice Pros Paperback – July 16, 2011
    by C. "Judge" Johnson Bryan Bonshell (Contributor)
    Subtotal: $2.87
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    Grand Total:$6.86

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    John Patrick's Advanced Craps: The Advanced Player's Guide to Winning Paperback – June 1, 2000
    by John Patrick
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  5. Twelve4s, Dec 18, 2016

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    No harm in reading books, but I wonder why you seem to fear a real craps game? There's no substitute for rail time.

    Just observing the game with a $5 pl or dp, a $100 buy in can last hours unless it REALLY isn't your day. Then you learn a good lesson, when to quit. As JH likes to say, LTWOQ.
     
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    You are jumping rather unfairly to an unreasonable conclusion. I don't "fear" a Craps game or anything else. I'm just not ready. The nearest "live" Craps table is over 190+ miles away over "B" and "C" roads. If I could find a "live" Craps table of any description nearer to where I live I would already be there checking things out. Rather than criticizing and judging me unfairly, why don't you "suggest" a "live" craps table near where I live. My zip code is 12481. Any ideas? I have not yet sufficiently built up my bank roll. I haven't yet finished building my practice table. I haven't had enough physical practice of ANY kind on any kind of Craps table. Frankly I don't know or understand enough about the game. So until I'm ready I'm NOT going to waste my time and money.
     
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    The 190 mile commute is no excuse! I drive 165, & 135 miles, respectively, to my nearest Casinos!

    You will know "you have arrived" (conquered discipline) when you can drive THAT commute, toss ONLY 2 hands, color up & head back home! Until you can do THAT.......You aren't ready!
     
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    Sort of what I did 2 weeks ago.Went to Foxwoods_ table empty for one other player.Played 2 hands - back to home.Drive time 1:15 one way
     
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    Foxwoods Casino is 3 hours - 45 minutes - 4 hours away from where I live. Not yet ready to do that until I am completely ready and prepared..
     
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    The difference between you and me is that I would call that an addiction or an obsession. Not healthy or sane. My driving four hours in bad weather to risk money when I'm not properly prepared is not what I call having a good time.

    If there were a casino that was closer I would definitely be there.

    You're getting awfully close to "bullying", "trolling" and "intimidation". My advise to you is to back off.

    You're unfairly and unjustifiably judging me, shaming me, scolding me, but you still haven't answered my question.

    Where is there a Casino that has "live" Craps tables that is under 1 hour from Zip Code 12481?
     
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    It's craps. There's no such thing as being completely prepared. There's a reason it's called gambling. Get in the game!
     
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    So where do you live?

    Where do you play Craps?

    How often do you play Craps?

    When was the last time you visited a Casino and played Craps?
     
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    Put this on your reading list,

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    Thanks!

    You just made my life a lot easier. One less Troll that I need to deal with. IGNORED!
     
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    I think it's great that Tony G can at least practice craps even though he may not ever play. Think this is a recent picture of the psychic Tony G practicing his two finger front grip while attending a recent Woodstock reunion.



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    I wish I could take your photoshop class.
     
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    What do you need to know before you step up to a real live craps game?

    Craps is a relatively simple game!

    Some basic math skills will give you most of the information you need.

    Take a look at two six sided dice, with just a little figuring, you can come up with the expected out come of any roll of those two dice.....it's called the perfect 36.

    You can bet any and all combinations of any of those expected rolls.

    The next math exercise is a bit more complex, but still rather simple....what are the odds of winning any bet that is available on the table, verses what the casino will pay you for that bet = the house advantage.

    Note: the casino makes its money off of the player's winning bets, not their losing bets by paying you less than fair value on that winning bet.

    If you understand the above information, the only thing left is to plan your strategy for the goals you have in mind for that session of play. This takes a little math to figure the amount of luck needed to accomplish said goal.....the odds of a certain variance occurring, it's called a cumulative probabilities exercise. But can more easily be arrived at using simulations from a good program.....WinCraps by Cloud City software comes to mind.

    There are as many schemes as there are craps players, and all the books that claim to have "systems" for beating the game, are just rehashes of all, or many of those schemes......reader beware, they have all failed the "smell rest"!

    That covers the basics, now if you want to throw in the mix of "something else", be my guest!

    Those "something else's" include......bias dice, dice control, and precognition (commonly called trend identification), that is called "The Gambler's Fallacy" to be exact, believing the dice have some sort of memory.

    Now, get in your vehicle and make a trip to "Disney Land"........good luck!

    Oh, I forgot, you and some others here are into the "Zen" thing I think, so you can list that under "something else" also. Positive visualization, being in the zone, attraction, and other mental constructs. The jury is still out on most of those though, and will remain out, for now at least.....but follow your own reality, no matter that it might be flawed.

    Again, good luck!
     
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    The only thing this guy seems to understand is the ignore function.
     
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  20. James Hall, Dec 18, 2016

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    when you roll a six with $6 on it they pay you 7 to 6 instead of 6 to 5 , every time you win they take part of the true odds
    in the form of a vig. When you seven out they take it all so they collect on both ends
    When you win they take some when you lose they take it all
    hell of a game
     
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