New Aruze digital dice table

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  1. Grizzoola, Oct 13, 2018

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  2. The Midnight Skulker, Oct 13, 2018

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    I can see two problems.
    1. Looks like players do not get to belly up literally to the table, which would discourage DI's from playing. (Casinos might actually consider that an advantage.) Based on one of my latest sessions that could also result in more dice leaving the table since the dice must be launched from above it.
    2. The game has the potential to move faster than a traditional one, but I can also see a potential bottleneck with players needing help with making their bets electronically. For example, a player intends to make a Come bet but it ends up in the Field. Player calls Time Out and needs help correcting the error. I'm pretty sure I am even more sure I don't want to deal this game than I am sure I don't want to deal a traditional one, a surety of which I was reminded during that same recent session. (Inebriated player became irate when he couldn't bet on the numbers that are marked to keep track of the ATS bet.)
    The article said the table catches fire electronically during a hot roll, but failed to note any special effects to depict an ice age. This suggests a future upgrade to set the game up in a separate room with surround sound; HVAC to match the actual temperature to that of the table; and 360-degree visual effects, from volcano to ice cave.
     
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  3. von duck, Oct 13, 2018

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    Aruze is probably looking for something to replace the bubble, which by my observations, is not doing very well. Gee, I wonder why that would be, considering all of the bubbles convenient features? What could possibly be the "turn-off", let me see, let me see. :cool:
     
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  4. Mssthis1, Oct 14, 2018

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    There's no timeouts on the electronic versions. Once that timer hits 0, it's run what you brung. I wish they'd do that on live tables. Slow play is my biggest gripe.

    On the Interblock versions I've made accidental bets before by touching the screen and not realizing I did it while talking to someone of just day dreaming.

    The electronic craps are doing well in my neck of the woods and the ones away from the strip in Vegas are busy.

    Many players on the strip are there to have fun or for the experience. I can see why those don't do as well. Ceasars properties in particular. They have the betting limits set so low on theirs that only the people trying to make their last $20 last for 3 days are going to play them.
     
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    Understood. I was commenting on the version depicted in the OP's linked article where it looked like shooters actually threw the dice instead of merely pressing a button.
     
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    I could be wrong since I haven't seen one of these in action but I believe it is the same principle. Touch screen to make bets and they showed a countdown timer on the layout. I'm assuming that once that timer hits 0, no more bets and made bets are locked in.

    Since there's a dealer there may be an overide but that could lead to abuse by players.
     
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    Looks interesting...although I tend to avoid any electronic games with virtual results.

    Yep, typically there is no waiting or "hold on" moments. Once the timer goes to zero....you are locked in or out.

    I would give this a look. Any game that cuts out an employee or limits the amount of them...the casino will defintely take a look at installing.

    Maybe the dice self roll (like the bubble) if the shooter doesn't actually shoot after a certain amount of time.
     
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    Not sure how that could be implemented being as the shooter has physical possession of the dice. Take the dice away after too many timeouts?
     
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    Ok, then maybe I missed something. The surface is a big LED display. Are people actually rolling dice on a glass top?
     
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    Found it...but can't tell if it's real dice.

    Starts around the 4:15 mark.

    Especially like his comment about the dealer....6:20 or so...

    "She doesn't have to bend over".....

    LOL...

     
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    Back before Bill's casino , which became the Cromwell , shut down
    to remodel they had a machine that appeared to be similar to the one
    mentioned in the article posted by Grizoola. It was just inside
    the entrance from the strip. It sat idle the majority of the time.
    People would walk in look at it then go to the craps table to play.
     
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    It would appear that this machine would eliminate any
    benefit of skill from the game altogether. This would have
    little or no effect on random players , but could be
    devastating for skilled players.
     
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    What this game, and and others like it, will tend to do is cut out players, more so then employees. :confused: :).
     
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    Just the old pants pissers and those with their head in the sand who don't embrace change.

    The world is fast approaching the tipping point where the majority of people will prefer games like this with minimal human interaction and more choices.

    You sound a lot like a disgruntled table games dealer. :)
     
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    Yep. I’ve long said the traditional craps table is a dinosaur in terms of how much labor is needed to run it. It. It can also be a sloth on time.

    I know of no other game or form of entertainment or business endeavor that requires such a labor intensive environment to run it....and run it well.

    It has stood the test of time to a certain degree...but no doubt the industry is looking for alternatives.
     
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    I played the bubble machine at the NA casino last night. it had 5 players when I first got there and the regular craps table was empty. I rarely play their regular table because it is too bouncy.

    Started out slow with a couple short hands right off the bat from random bubblers. Luckily they all left. I was able to keep adjusting my button pushing hand set until I created a hot shooter roll using the right hand palm down button push.

    Went from $300 down to $174 ahead and bolted for the cage as Top taught me.
     
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    I played the bubble machine at the NA casino last night. it had 5 players when I first got there and the regular craps table was empty. I rarely play their regular table because it is too bouncy.

    Started out slow with a couple short hands right off the bat from random bubblers. Luckily they all left. I was able to keep adjusting my button pushing hand set until I created a hot shooter roll using the right hand palm down button push.

    Went from $300 down to $174 ahead and bolted for the cage as Top taught me.
     
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    That's how we bubblers get it done!

    Nice come back. Leave green.

    Who said its all about the regular table? Find me a guy like you who is on a run...I'm just as likely to cash out when (if) the roll ends. I have a can't get much better than that attitude...like George Costanza said, "leave on a high note".
     
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    That will likely be the unintended result .
     
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    I was in Bill's many times before it closed. From the strip....there were 2 entrances, one with steps and the other flat. I never remember ANY electronic craps table like the one pictured in Grizz's post. When you walked in there were blackjack tables down the middle leading to roulette and craps. Electronic tables like pictured in 2010-2013? Never saw anything like that.
     
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