I was posting on another website but the regulars and moderators are hostile against players who hedge bets in craps. I live in California and am within a short drive of Reno and have come to enjoy playing bubble or e-craps. The game is by Aruze called "Shoot To Win". The bad news is that a team of advantage players burned out the good promotions in Reno and at Red Hawk. Circus Circus was really easy to get comps & free rooms but once they changed the coin-in to get one point, it's hard to go there now for the free or low cost meals. I am mainly a Don't Come bettor during a hot shooter and like to make the easy money. A hot shooter is when there are at least 20 consecutive rolls of no red 7; a seven on come out roll is blue. After the DC bets becomes the point, I hedge for a guaranteed no lose situation. For example $5 DC bet gets hedged with $3 buy bet for 4,10, $4 buy bet for 5,9, and $5 place bet for 6,8 and I cannot lose money. Or I could take $5 odds for $10 ($5 DC and $5 odds) and make $7 buy bet for 4,10, $8 buy bet for 5,9 and $9 place bet for 6,8 and I cannot lose money. During a hot shooter, there is no 7-out during these 1st 20 rolls. Since it's a slot machine, you want to get the coin-in through the game so you want to get as many hedge plays as possible -- I play a break-even game and get mailers, free food, free play offers, etc. Only problem is a team of advantage players hog up the seats on multiple point days and it's hard to get a machine when the casino is busy. The AP's are in teams -- one bets pass with 2X odds and the other members bets don't pass with full 2X odds and same for Come & Don't Come, respectively. As a result, I can't do this to get points to avoid guilt by association. Hope to learn more about craps from reading this forum.