PARTING THOUGHTS

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by James Hall, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Mssthis1, Aug 15, 2018

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    The Chicago market is either not close to saturation or overpriced for most players. They have buses come in from Chicago to Meskwaki in Tama Iowa almost every day.


    Life is currently getting in the way here too. The next few months are going to be real busy.
     
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  2. eagleeye2, Aug 15, 2018

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  3. eagleeye2, Aug 15, 2018

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    Likely Overpriced!

    The majority of Bussed Players Play Slots, which likely HOLD about 15% of $ in, @ Chicago-land Casino's.

    Take Meskwaki in Tama Iowa, which likely makes significant $$$ with but a 10% Hold on their average Slot & you see why those Busses are in route almost daily.

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  4. tabletop123, Aug 15, 2018

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    It's all in fun ( although in Eagle\Harley's case...I REALLY mean it).
    These guys simply don't " get it"!
    I am not opposed to Dice Influencing. Call me a " has been", " just can't perform", or WHATEVER!!
    Doesn't matter!!!

    I practice tossing dice on the home table. Will ALWAYS try to influence the dice. Nothing wrong with trying to do SOMETHING to beat the Casinos...regardless of the outcome.

    I'm simply not gonna endorse bullshit..... like..play when I need the money. Get properly trained, & you'll Assault the Vaults, Regularly roll ten roll hands, etc. It simply doesn't work that way for any skilled shooter...regardless of the Bullshit.." How would you know" statements that the die-hard Dice Influencers will toss at ya.
    Just like the over 8 SRR for 40,000 tosses.
    Now, I'm probably the least educated guy on this forum, but SOME things are just Fu**king common sense.

    No one said ya can't win, or that Dice Influencers don't win. We all win, & lose. Some win at a higher rate than others...sometimes it MIGHT be because of influence. Other times...NOT!!!

    As I told Two Dice....I'm NOT gonna endorse bullshit....for those individuals that might be contemplating trying out Dice Influencing. Sure, some will do better than others at the craft, but there aren't any individuals ON A CRAPS FORUM that are winning at a uncanny rate, & encouraging others to do so too. ( UNLESS they are peddling SOMETHING...classes, private instructions, or " let's play with YOUR money, & we'll split the winnings, " or " buy my Guaranteed winning system, etc),

    Ya wanna find out who the guys are that MIGHT be influencing the dice on a regular basis?
    Then...get your Ass to a Casino/s, & follow a good shooter around with pen, & paper for QUITE SOME TIME!! ( Be prepared for the Long Haul, because 10 sessions ain't gonna cut the mustard)

    When ya think ya might have found him/her, ....ya start asking questions, & when ya get the " dead pan" responses like " I'm kinda busy right now", or " give me your number, & I'll give ya a call.....THAT'S PROBABLY THE PERSON that you've been looking for.

    Ya won't find him/her boasting on a Craps forum. Ya follow me?
     
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  5. Twelve4s, Aug 15, 2018

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    Wow! What a great post Harley!

    Must of had a good nights sleep!

    I thought this idea might be helpful to you,

     
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  6. tabletop123, Aug 15, 2018

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    Lol. I thought that I was bad....You guys are ABSOLUTELY Brutal.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Aug 15, 2018

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    You know my thoughts. I don't believe anyone can utilize the craps table to pad their bank account. If I thought it was possible...I would say so.

    I don't even entertain the words coming from southeast of here. That's just a cartoon.

    If someone feels that is negative thinking...que sera, sera. I'm not here to perpetuate false ideas to fit in to some clique of "he's one of us".

    If someone wants to believe otherwise....go ahead.
     
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  8. James Hall, Aug 15, 2018

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    I firmly believe TT much like TDV , Demango and others
    is engaged in an effort to point out to people
    the futility in playing craps
    If you read TT's posts , they have
    spiraled downward to , "DOOM & GLOOM"
    He begins with things such as , you can win ,
    then he drops the , "BUT". bomb
    and explains why , "It just ain't happenin"
     
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  9. James Hall, Aug 15, 2018

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    NOPE, absolutely not
     
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    Yes, please re-post.
     
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  11. twodicebilly, Aug 15, 2018

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    James


    I know guys that add to their spendable money
    from playing craps....that is a fact.

    I am not going to tell you who they are because it
    is no one business but theirs...none of them is a threat
    to a casino because they dont want to be.

    James if you understand something to be a fact....what others
    think just does not matter. I feel sorry for people that feel
    just because they cant do something, no one else can either.
    I was never jealous of people that could do something better than I could...… good for them, gives me something to shoot
    for.

    tdb
     
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  12. James Hall, Aug 15, 2018

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    FredPCheck my post "James Hall is Eagleeye2".
    Can you verify? Grounds for a ban?
    You have 2 requests there to ban me
    Have you always been a tattletale?
     
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  13. tabletop123, Aug 15, 2018

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    That's right..Daddio!! Nothing new under the Sun. Same bullshit with you...day in, & day out. If I had a life, I'd simply stay off of this forum, but unfortunately....I DON'T. As I've said before....NOBODY does what YOU claim to do.

    Not Dom, Frank, Stickman, Little Joe Green , Billy, ( G), Heavy, Mssthis, Demango, Myself, Supperick ( however, it seems that these days.. Rick seems to endorse any Bullshit that you spew, so we'll put a " ?" behind Rick's name), Dave ( although YOU try to include Dave's opinions in your little charades), or any of the other Di's on the other forums.


    The ONLY two making these Grandiose claims these days are James Hall, & his little brother...Bone Thrower/Full Press. Ya remember him, right?

    He's the one with the SRR of 14, the one with the 14-2 advantage over the Casinos. The one on the million dollar run that makes a minimum of $86,000 a year playing craps.

    Call it the " But" bomb that I SUPPOSEDLY drop.... in my posts regarding Dice Influencing. Call it negativity. Not being properly trained. Telling others they can't/won't win, etc.

    However, one thing that you can't call it is.....Blowing Fairy dust up people's Ass.

    There's a distinct difference between winning, & having the Casinos as your personal ATM, because you were properly trained, & put in the effort to learn how to win.

    Ya get a had of support from Two Dice. ONLY because he aint too fond of TDVegas. Also, because Two Dice is a practictioner of Dice Influencing,... but don't believe....FOR ONE SECOND that Billy believes in ALL of the bullshit that you spew.

    How do I know? Simply because Billy has met them all ( All of the highly touted GOOD shooters).

    NEVER a word out of Billy's mouth regarding the type claims that James professes to be capable of. Not even close,..... & Billy is a FIRM believer in Influence.....to a certain extent.

    Ya try to twist, & spin things by saying that myself, & others say people can't win, just because we don't fit into your little Vault Assault nonsense.

    News Flash: I caught a gear the last time that I played. Yep...will be the first to say that I influenced the dice.....but THATS where it ends.

    Might win again next time. Might lose. News Flash folks.....ya can " put in the work" , & still have losing sessions. Shhhhhhhhh.....don't
    say that too loud. James might get upset, & say: " It ain't so"!!!


    Continued Success at the tables..Everyone.

    I hope that every last one of ya......" Catch a little gear", & head straight to the Cage....winnings in Tow!!!!
     
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  14. eagleeye2, Aug 15, 2018

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    TDV<

    TDV,

    If you TRULY BELIEVE as in the Post above, why do you Pound Away at every post that provides help to the folks out there???

    eagleeye2
     
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  15. TDVegas, Aug 15, 2018

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    And exactly what "post" here has helped them "pad their income"...?
     
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  16. James Hall, Aug 15, 2018

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    I have never been jealous of those people either
    That feeling of jealousy can be quit destructive
    in fact if they had a skill I was interested in
    I WANTED TO TALK TO THEM. I wanted
    to know what they knew that I didn't.
    All my life I have tried to surround myself with
    people who knew more than I did about the things
    I wanted to pursue.
    TT talks a lot about being a LONE WOLF,
    that has never worked for me.
    Over the years I have started several businesses
    I sought out people who were really good at
    that particular business , I didn't hire them
    I took them in as partners so I could take
    full advantage of their knowledge , experience and expertise
    Yep you have that right
     
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  17. TDVegas, Aug 15, 2018

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    I honestly don't think it's possible for anyone here to be jealous of someone else's craps claims. That's all they are. Claims.

    Disbelief? Yes

    Jealousy? No

    Beyond that....the "you're just jealous" cry is about the most childish thing uttered on these forums. Reminds me of the playground when one kid said everyone was jealous of his sneakers or some other childish statement.

    Grown men uttering the "you're jealous" stuff tells me they have the maturity level of a seven year old. Jeez, grow up.
     
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  18. James Hall, Aug 15, 2018

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    Twelve 4 liked your post but my question is
    Who said "you're just jealous" ?
     
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  19. James Hall, Aug 15, 2018

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    A knock at my door this morning , a guy I talked to
    in Vegas almost a year ago lives in Glendale , wanted to talk
    When he came in he was quite surprised that
    I have a craps table in my house.
    We took a seat by the table and he told me his story.
    He is a truck driver and delivers to Las Vegas several
    times a year and makes it a point to play a little craps while there
    He stated "I just play for fun and now I am trying to
    get back some of my losses"

    He asked if a person could actually LEARN TO WIN
    We threw dice a bit and he said he would think it over
    I asked him what he was going to think about
    He said , "If I should try to learn"
    He said , the way I see it there are 3 options

    try to learn ,

    Keep doing what I am doing , continue losing

    or quit
    When the conversation ended he left, 15 minutes later
    he knocked on the door again he said
    "I am just afraid trying to learn just won't work"?

    I said , then you are afraid you will fail
    he got pissed , he said , NO , I'M not afraid
    He hesitated for a second and said , "maybe I am"

    The , "FEAR OF FAILURE" stops many people from doing many things
    they would REALLY LIKE TO DO.
     
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  20. TDVegas, Aug 15, 2018

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    Jeez, how many times have you repeated this story here?

    The down on his luck craps player who “just plays for fun” and “accepts losing”....and “plays til his money runs out”.

    Rinse, repeat the same story.

    You sure do surround yourself with a lot of “losers”.
     
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