PL w/Odds Bet For The Dealer?

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  1. Pressit, Dec 6, 2016

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    This is not a question if you can make a PL bet for the dealer, we all know you can. Some may not know this, but you as the shooter can make a PL bet for the dealers at anytime after the point has been established, and then place the appropriate odds, up to the max allowed, behind that bet.

    On a 3, 4, 5 odds table and the point is 4, you place $1 on the PL, and place between $1 to $3 in odds. So in this example you start out with just $1 in odds, and after a few small wins you increase the odds to max odds, in this case $3. The question is, can you increase the PL portion of the dealer's bet which would allow you to increase the odds portion of the bet?

    Also, you as the player can remove/adjust your odds portion, but not your PL bet, does this also apply for the dealer's PL bet including the odds?
     
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  2. basicstrategy777, Dec 6, 2016

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    You can increase the PL bet after the point is established. ( not all but I'm sure most casino's would allow this). Many years ago when foxwoods had 2 x odds....i'd make a 5 dollar PL bet and if 6/8 was the point I'd go to 6 dollars on the PL bet and make my odds 20.

    If you wanted to increase your PL bet, for you or the dealer, after the point is established, it should not be a problem.

    You might consider piggy-backing their bet on top of yours so that they get the winnings but not the original bet. This way you can keep their original bet and bet it again without having to put out new money... or you can increase the original bet it as you see fit.

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  3. Pressit, Dec 6, 2016

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    Thanks 777. Good info from a non-dealer. LOL.
     
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  4. Twelve4s, Dec 6, 2016

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    I generally make a few two-way hardway bets early on, just to let the dealers know I am a tipper. I have noticed very little tipping out at Cache Creek, so they really appreciate it. Another thing I have occasionally done is to set a dollar of my odds bet behind a 4 or 10 aside. If it wins, the dealers get it and the $2 payoff attached to it. When I leave, I hand in any singles I have left.
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  5. rudeboy99, Jan 7, 2017

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    It's advantageous to toke early in the session so the crew knows you've the attitude, generally speaking you'll enjoy an increased level of service throughout your session.:D
     
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    kinda sad thinking you chose their casino to play in and they aren't giving you top level service?
    good thing doctors don't expect tips.
     
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  7. Onautopilot, Jan 7, 2017

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    In a way, I understand your comments. I do not tip because I expect better service, I tip because I received good service.

    So from a tipping the dealers thing, I make bets or hand-ins based on the service I am receiving. They make a large percentage of their wages from tips, so like any good service person, they should, like you say, always be providing top service, and take the good with the bad....just like waitresses, some tip a little, some tip none, and some tip very well, it equals out.

    I never did like dealers that pandered for tips, but I reckon it's like anything else, if business is slow, do what you can to pick it up a little. :)
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Jan 7, 2017

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    This is the most common way I play for the crew. Even with 3-4-5 odds, I always put out 5 odds behind a white, regardless of what the point is, and have even pushed it up to $6 on an odd point. They will always let it sit there until a decision, I guess because it is small potatoes, and it is coming their way with a winner.

    If your starting flat bet for the dealers is $1, you can't get any smaller than that!

    Playing at home with 10x odds, if enough winners in a row are seen, I'll get the crew out on 10x odds and keep going for them with slightly larger line bets, as long as I am continuing to see winners.

    I remember one time when running nicely, there were SO many come out winners that I abandoned the 10x odds in favor of 2x in order to get out large as possible come outs.

    Don't recall where my own bet was at the time, but got up to 35 flat/70 odds for the crew on the bet that finally brought me back to reality. They did hit a 25/50 before the loser.
     
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    When I'm shooting I always do $1 PL with $1 odds for shooter. I like the piggyback option 777 mentioned. I may do that from now on.
     
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  10. gold4278, Jan 9, 2017

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    There is no need to put odds behind a bet right? If you just play a straight number, then the dealers shouldn't have to pay vig. For example, a dealer 10 should pay 2 to 1...I guess it depends on the casino.
     
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    Get real Liman or get a clue...
     
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  12. Twelve4s, Jan 11, 2017

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    Good to see your return! How's retirement treating you?
     
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