Question for come bet players

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by PeacePeople, May 17, 2019.

  1. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    Play the wrong game you lose
    Play the right game you win.
    You need to catch up with REALITY , there are no participation trophys
    in craps.

    You need to forget that
    "It's not whether you win or lose , it's how you play the game" crap
    and realize , winning is the only thing that matters , and to win
    you have to play the ,
    "RIGHT GAME"
    And you can , "$#^*T" CAN all that ,
    "But you don't know what their goal is or their loss tolerance , BULL BOTCHY
    Either you play TO WIN or you are playing to LOSE LESS.
    YOU lose because you don't know how to win.
     
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  2. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    This is the logic of the play to lose less guy.

    PLAYING TO LOSE LESS.
    These players go in with the thought:
    "I want to play as long as I can before my bankroll is gone"
    They are basically playing for table time.
     
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  3. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    You don't have to worry about any of that....since you don't play craps.

    Hey, I'll give anyone credit who sticks their neck out there, makes a craps bet, makes a horse pick, picks a sports bet to make. Takes some or any risk. You're just talk. Nothing more.

    As others have noted with you....

    All hat, no cattle.

    Guys like Liman, Mssthis, gargoil, tomp, OAP, MisterInside with horse picks, Mr. boxer with sports picks....those guy put it out there, take the risk, actually take and make action....

    Those guys get the nod of respect.

    You get nothing....as you are nothing but talk, talk. Like all of your videos out there and what one of your own customers noted...."nothing but stories"...."there's no teaching being done here"...."just stories".

    You are the personification of All hat, no cattle. Maybe the term was invented just for you.
     
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  4. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    She wasn't a customer , she was someone who got on the site looking
    for free tips. The stories were trip reports from The Mesa guys
    and others who were communicating back and forth.

    You have repeated THAT LIE many times in the hope that
    if you repeat it often enough , other people will begin to believe it.
    You know I PLAY , you know WHY and WHEN.
    You above all else should be smart enough to never go
    into a casino , you have said repeatedly , you can't win.
    Why any right thinking person would ever even think about playing
    when they know the final outcome is always going to be to lose.
    It is at best illogical and for someone who continues playing
    loss after loss after loss without expending the least amount
    of energy in SOME EFFORT to learn to win seems to be totally
    counter intuitive.
     
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  5. PeacePeople, May 19, 2019

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    Still no winner since I signed up here...wonder if any of you will figure out it's not worth it...
     
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  6. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    Well, James...no one is going to win each and every time they play craps.

    Jeez, who are you trying to fool with this "I win everytime"....stuff.

    I won Friday....but I know I'm not going to win everytime. That's called responsible gaming....something you lack.
     
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  7. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    Not worth it? You mean not to gamble at all?

    There's an an old saying that the worst thing a gambler can do is win his first time. Then...you're hooked.

    You'll win. Your play is suited to it. Question. Are you setting any win amount?...meaning if you hit that point, you stop, take profit.

    As you know, the game isn't built for long term profit. At its core, it's a game of entertainment.
     
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  8. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    How in the hell did you get I win every time I play from that post??
    Read it again , I was questioning your logic of playing when
    you say YOU CAN'T WIN.

    Another lie , I never said I win every time.
     
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  9. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    So then are you advocating that a new player should
    go into the first game intending to lose??


    There's ANOTHER OLD SAYING , this one penned by WINNERS,

    "Never stop when you are in a winning session"
    Set loss limits but setting win limits is counterproductive.
     
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  10. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    I like the other saying you POST , the one where you say.

    "Golf rewards skill , tennis rewards skill but
    craps was not designed reward skill".
    The funny thing is the fact that craps does reward skill.
    A player with enough skill CAN WIN.
     
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  11. PeacePeople, May 19, 2019

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    I was posting about winning an internet argument...or the troll off that seems to be never ending on this forum.

    Carry on
     
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  12. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    Agreed. There only one guy on this forum who thinks he "wins" opinion based arguments here.
     
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  13. Edward-ky, May 19, 2019

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    No one on here does. How does anyone on here know you go to a casino and play craps. They can only take your word for it on here and we know what your word is worth on here. This isn’t a insult so don’t get on your typical stupid crusade.
     
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  14. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    What the hell?....I just said i won on Friday.
     
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  15. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    Huh?

    No I don't.

    No one here does.

    How on earth would I know when no one here, including myself has ever seen you play craps.

    Since you post from home in southern Arizona where there are no live tables within 5-6 hours and you post here as close to 24/7 as possible....it's a physical impossibility for you to play craps. You would have to be in 2 places at the same time.

    It's a safe bet that you haven't seen live table play in a long while...maybe never. I'm comfortable saying that.
     
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  16. Edward-ky, May 19, 2019

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    Well he has to ignore those things that people say so he can support his arguments that he believes he is winning. He is that type of person who always has to have a better story than anyone. And I am sure it will be the same responses that we don’t win we are playing to lose less not playing to win playing the wrong game. He assumes everyone just bets 6/8 and cashes 6 bets all the time. No one ever presses ever. I don’t think I have ever seen anyone say they just bet 6/8 only and never presses. It’s the same recording that has been playing for years now.
     
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  17. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    Playing the 6-8 only is actually an effective play for craps, IMO. It's also supported by the math. James has ZERO to support his way is "better". I mean, nothing. Just a song and dance.

    Pressing is a nice way to get a bigger score but I take no issue with those that don't press....because it does support the idea that they will fare better in the long haul than the press player.

    In Vegas, those players that are regular, frequent players will walk with small wins instead of parlaying. I have no issue with either style.

    It's ALL a personal decision based on how much we play, how often, how much we expect or want to win, are we willing to walk with a smaller win?, do we want to risk that profit for a bigger score? So many personal variables.

    There are so many variables based on each of our personal wants and needs that there is no "right or wrong" craps. That term belongs to a knucklehead who has little understanding of the game.
     
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  18. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    Yes you do.
    They do , they just won't go against you.
    They know what that would bring down from you.
    Oh I forgot your policy , if you haven't seen it , it cannot be.
    Let me say this once again. You can repeat these things till you
    are blue in the face. It will not make it true.
    you keep saying 5-6 hours , doesn't take us that long.
    Has nothing to do with whether I play or not ,
    That is just your way of reinforcing your lies.
     
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  19. James Hall, May 19, 2019

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    I know without a doubt you would love for everyone to believe that
    you think if you say things enough times everybody will.
    You have gotten some on here to say they believe your lies
    but they don't
    Now that argument was just silly.
    How much is the bet???
    It's a sad state of affairs when a person announces he is comfortable lying ,
    Shows an extreme lack of character.
    I* can prove I have played , am playing and will play
    would you care to take a stab at proving
    I HAVE NEVER PLAYED and am not playing???
    Lay it on us.
     
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  20. TDVegas, May 19, 2019

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    Ok, prove away.
     
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