Resorts World Queens undergoing changes

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  1. RouletteGhost, Aug 21, 2019

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    Those in down state new york I think may be in for a treat

    Resorts world queens is adding a 400 room hotel and restaurants.....and the downstate casino ban is expiring soon

    I think they are gearing up to receive one of the three downstate licenses for table games

    its a huge place, its gonna happen

    right now they just have the dice bubbles, but they are lobbying the state to give them a license for live games
     
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    they've had tables waiting upstairs for years. they just need the nod
    don't know why the govt wont issue them a license for 500 million

    afterall, the LIRR had 1.3 billion dollars in overtime pay. cant make that all back in raising fares.

    but the construction is costing a shitload of parking spaces right now. I hope they build a second garage or shut the track down eventually.
     
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  3. RouletteGhost, Aug 21, 2019

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    Genting is a huge operation...they will definitely receive the license in my opinion...they are just waiting for the nod as you say
     
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    Money talks, but at the moment the moratorium on the final 3 casino licenses remains until 2023. MGM & Genting want full gaming licenses for their existing NYC-area facilities without a competitive bid. Both are willing to give the other 4 NY casinos money, which tells you how lucrative the downstate licenses would be.
     
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  5. TDVegas, Aug 21, 2019

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    They were reporting out here that the Catskills casino is losing money hand over fist. They have apparently pulled slot machines....which makes the books look better (how, I’m not sure)....something about revenue per machine.

    Bankruptcy may be an option....which will clear out the debt to a manageable level.

    Station casinos did the same thing. Wiped out about 2 billion in debt.
     
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    that was my first thought...genting is so successful on long island theyd probably offer to kick back money to the ones upstate as well as lobby dollars to get this done

    they are currently building a hotel and celebrity restaurant and have tables collecting dust...they are expecting it
     
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    there are some politicians who are saying ridiculous to the governor, why wait another 3 years to grant licenses.
    talking about big huge money to get a license and the casinos are willing to pay.

    I don't know how huge casino corporations work, but I think a casino in NY would be more profitable than any casino in any state or in any other country.

    Its not like casinos will be prolific in NYC metro area.

    catskills losing money, ha! look up some of my old posts when I first went up there and made fun of how they are catering to Asians, with an entire section of casinos devoted to Asian games, (not trying to sound racist, but that's how they advertised it), they went up in the middle of a very run down shithole area, with all the Hasidic jews buying up every single piece of land to put summer retreats, the places look so run down its amazing they stay up and don't crumble to the ground, and this is where the politicos thought would bring in big revenue from downstaters? Only one fucking road into Monticello, no restaurants, limited, very limited hotels, basically nothing else to do in that area unless you want to go to synagogue on Saturdays, and what genius thought that's a good place to put a casino to revive the economy. No one wants to work up there for slave wages
    and then they put a casino in tioga downs.......never, and I mean never in my life did I go to a casino where Im told every single restaurant and the CASINO shuts down at 3 pm on xmas eve and doesn't open again for 2 days. what the fuck? what about all the Asians and jews that don't celebrate xmas, I guess they felt all the Asians and jews were going to resorts in catskills.....I cant believe tioga downs is still open.
    at least put a casino like rivers Schenectady in a city where there are working class people who might gamble and enjoy a night out...
    del lago, a beautiful casino, great place, all around, not sure how they will survive either after NYC gets casinos, but I guess they will get their cut of Batavia downs, fingerlake, turning stone to keep them afloat.

    but ignore NYC metro area with 30 million people within a 45 minute ride for casino, not to mention another 6 million in northern and central jersey who would go to NYC casinos....ignore them....who the fuck thinks like this.
    NY politicians....lemme see? what can we sell to make money, OH I got it, lets go sell ice in Antarctica great idea, we should make a killing. how bout surf shops in the Nevada desert...something Nevada needs .......

    bunch of morons, its no wonder nY is such desperate financial shape with the morons running the city. (I know casinos aren't the answers, but a good decision about the placement of casinos would be a good start)
     
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    Catskills was run down like no other area. The old resorts were decrepit. It was a poor population up there. I was very surprised when I heard they were building a casino resort up there.

    I used to golf up there many times with a league and the course buildings were dated to the 1950's. Never updated. Never upgraded. The courses were in fairly decent shape...but they got greedy with how they were treating our golf group.

    The last straw was one time it was absolutely pouring rain....but they refused to close the course because if they did, they had to refund the fees for about 50 players.

    They figured we would just not show up...and they would keep the money claiming the course was fine to play. So, 10-15 of us would make the trip from NJ in a monsoon knowing full well we weren't going to be able to play....and they would have to close the course and refund the $2,500.

    Greedy bastards couldn't just close the course from the get go.
     
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  9. The Midnight Skulker, Aug 22, 2019

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    Shades of football's "Fog Bowl" some years back...and Charlie Brown on the pitcher's mound.

    I recently saw a soccer game from Europe played in pouring rain on TV . Towards the end of it the pitch became unplayable IMHO, and a joke to boot because of all the puddles. Players would kick the ball as far as they could from their own half, which would normally just turn the ball over to the opposing team' keeper, but it would stop dead outside the box. Water polo, anyone?

    When my son was in Little League baseball I encountered your situation in reverse. There had been heavy rain up to maybe an hour before our game but the field had not dried out, particularly the areas were runners approach second and third bases, and home plate. One of our players, who lived on the other side of town from the fields, did not show up on time; his mom figured the game would be canceled, but changed her mind when it stopped raining at their house just past the time they needed to leave. The Parks & Rec guy who ran the league was waffling as to whether to call the game...until he found out we were short a player and would have to forfeit; then he had no trouble making a decision. I really felt like challenging him to run the bases in his white Dockers, sliding into second, third, and home, and then tell me the field was playable.
     
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    my family started going up to the catskills in the 40s, when me and my siblings were younger, it was great. ONce I had my own children we went to Kutschers 3-4 times a year.
    family made fun of us, for the price for the catskills for a week, we could have taken the family to any high end resort in Disney or cancun. But my kids and wife liked it up there, and I used to play tennis with staff and once the concord shut down, they kept the indoor tennis open along with the golf course, and wed get to use the indoor courts Im guessing as a courtesy, I played the manager of the hotel. but hotel was super costly , and tips were expected, and they were big.
    then the catskills fizzled away, completely, Kutschers and the nevele were the only 2 hotels left up there till the end.
    I believe Ballys invested money in Kutschers or advanced them money, I don't recall now, hoping gambling would go up there.that never happened, they opened up a racino at the race track.
    Nothing could have saved the area.
    back then I also rented a house at big vanilla ski slope, I don't recall the name of the area, davos maybe? I was thinking of purchasing an A frame home up there figuring casinos were coming, Im glad I never pulled the trigger on that.

    it was a great area, probably still is? nice homes, I rented a 5 bedroom home from memorial day till labor day, the owners only wanted the house to ski, and rented in summer.
    lots of land, no neighbors on top of you.
    I remember something funny. I used to hang tin pans in the trees and take my pellet rifle and shoot off the deck on the side of the house.
    one morning, must have been 5 am, I had just gotten out of shower, everyone sleeping, I walked onto the deck naked, picked up the gun and took a few shots, I had to drive back to city to work. A woman walking her dog was on road, clearly saw me, and just waved, like it was nothing to see a naked man shooting a gun at 5 am off his deck. we laughed about it.

    we still go up there now and then, its still the country, and if you don't look at all the run down Hasidic communities, theres some beauty there.
     
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  11. TDVegas, Aug 22, 2019

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    The mountains were beautiful. Fall foliage could be stunning. It was a thriving vacation spot at one point. By the time I started going....it was dying and in disrepair.

    I think my high school had our graduation day trip to the Nevele. Played golf there a few times later on.
     
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    villa roma is still there, don't know what its like, I was there 25 years ago.....non kosher.....nevele went non kosher eventually

    my grandmother went to the catskills until she was in her mid 90s....lake Huntington? don't recall the name of the place.....one day I asked her why are all those people over there and not at pool, she said, oh, those are the super seniors(she was 92 or 93 at the time,), she told me most of them are in their 100s and require assistance and have aids with them.
     
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  13. Chip Magnet, Aug 24, 2019

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    No reason for RW in Queens to install dealer run table games. It cost $300-$400 per hour to staff a Craps table, and about $200 per hour to staff a single dealer table. Electronic tables cost a fraction to operate. No unions, taxes, vacations, complaints, injuries, lawsuits, sick days, medical benefits, 401k. No wonder RW is the most profitable casino in the country.

    When an arbitrator awarded their employees a raise, RW laid off a third of the staff, cut two hours off the work day, and replaced the buffet with 100 more electronic baccarat seats.

    They can service 2,000 gamblers on one floor with less than a dozen employees.
     
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    Yep. If it was my casino in that location I'd probably have 1 craps table open only on weekends, $50 min.

    When there's politics or a pissing match involved you never know what will happen. It usually boils down to who has the most pull or who gets their back pocket stuffed under the table the most.
     
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    honestly, I didn't know the raises caused the mass layoffs. it didn't bother me much, 9 out of 10 employees were Asian and only seemed to cater to the Asian customers. I remember them standing around the place 2 or 3 in clusters, and the one or two times I approached them with a question they seemed angry they had to address me. Now good luck trying to find someone to help you.. I thought after that small riot broke out in the buffet that was televised all over the networks they decided the buffet wasn't worth it, besides it was way overpriced for the quality of food it served.
    I think table games, live table games will just be more of a draw, and they wont have any tables under green chip minimum, shit, the minimum bet on the bubble is 15 dollars.
    but bringing in 1000s of card players, whatever the game will also bring in 1000s more slot players, and pack the new hotel coming as the airport is 5 minutes away.
     
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    The buffet was closed a couple years before the ‘Daiquiri Night’ riot broke out. Who would have guessed, ghetto thugs and half priced daiquiri’s are a bad mix.
     
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    im confused, I have to pay closer attention to news....if the buffet was closed years before, I watched the fight in the buffet area, and the news mentioned at the buffet.
     
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    RW queens will go full table games

    This is a guarantee. Genting is already lobbying the politicians. There’s also three license to be given down state

    RW queens wouldn’t be investing in a hotel and restaurants if it wasn’t. It’s when not if.
     
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