Set mutations

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  1. Dave G Ct, Dec 18, 2016

    Dave G Ct

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    I for one do not use set mutations off the 2-V or 3- V.If I cannot execute the toss correctly I should not be playing.But there are those who for instance may double pitch and look to avoid this.The remedy is to turn one die clockwise and that solves the DP but not 7 ING out.Since by doing this you have an easy 7- out now with a single pitch hit.I do not think this is wise.

    There are no short cuts in DI.The untalented can sit on the sidelines .
     
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  2. Twelve4s, Dec 18, 2016

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    Better make more room on the sidelines,

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    Yes but we will give them chairs
     
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  4. tabletop123, Dec 18, 2016

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    Wow! Makes me wonder if Dave will ever learn from tossing on his bed! Dice Results ending in your pre-toss configuration is as rare as the Loch Nest Monster!

    Sorry, Dave! It just ain't happening! Show me ANY Di that can "Snipe" numbers, & I will show you a very rich Di! Dice Sets are only a Starting Point to HOPEFULLY get you to your destination. (Avoiding the hand ending Seven out).

    Truth be told, you would fare BETTER if you DID permutate whichever dice set you are using because once those dice hit the table, & the pyramids, that PRIMARY hit that you THINK you will get with regularity......Ain't Happening!

    Now, let's assume that you had extraordinary dice tossing skills wherein your dice seldomly yaw ( flip over off axis)( which is a MONUMENTAL FEAT), do you REALLY think that your results will end up EXACTLY as your pre-set prior to tossing?


    Sam Grafstein: "Keep dreaming my children"! "keep Dreaming"!
     
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  5. tabletop123, Dec 18, 2016

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    Dave, take the advice of a Second Rate Talent ( TableTop)......AINT HAPPENING, just keep trying to avoid the Seven Out, & forget the "Sniping" Primary Hit" Thingy!

    You WILL thank me later! Or maybe sooner! Lol
     
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  6. Twelve4s, Dec 18, 2016

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    This should be posted at every casino entrance, just before the dumbshit spray.
     
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  7. tabletop123, Dec 18, 2016

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    Lol!
     
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  8. tabletop123, Dec 18, 2016

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    Guess I must be the Unluckiest Mother fu...ker alive, because I never get the results that some of these guys profess, even WHEN MY DICE CONSISTENTLY SPIN THROUGH THE AIR GLUED TOGETHER!

    I am one of the BIGGEST supporters of TRYING to influence the dice, but I certainly won't "Sugar Coat" things!

    Guess I AM a Second Rate Talent! Need more Bed Tossing time instead of Real Casino table time, huh? Lol
     
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  9. Onautopilot, Dec 18, 2016

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    Reality is a good thing TT!

    But having hope Is also a good thing........"Hope is a good thing Red, they can take everything else, but they can't take away your hope, don't ever quit hoping Red.". Not an exact quote from the movie, but close.

    To me, DI is based on a lot of "hope".....I hope my tosses favor of my bets today! :)
     
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  10. James Hall, Dec 18, 2016

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    there is one set you can use where if you single pitch you won't seven out , if you double pitch you won't seven out either
    I love that damned set a bunch
     
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  11. Dave G Ct, Dec 18, 2016

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    In your case any set will do! Or just shake them up!
     
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  12. $nakeEye$, Dec 18, 2016

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    DaveG CT does have a valid point here - as he usually does -

    In essence WHAT Dave is saying is simply -

    IF you can NOT have any influence over the dice with your practiced set -

    Do YOU REALLY expect positive results by changing your set to try to play into your deficiency(s) -

    Hardly -

    IF you are Double Pitching - there is a PROBLEM with your toss -

    Granted by altering your set - MIGHT - be a temporary Band-Aid fix - it is NOT the CURE of YOUR PROBLEM !

    CURE the PROBLEM - and - do NOT expect the Band-Aid temporary fix will work !

    THAT ONLY prolongs the agony !

    $...eE..$
     
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  13. $nakeEye$, Dec 18, 2016

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    TELL ME MORE !

    In ALL seriousness !

    IF you elect to NOT announce it openly -

    YOU have MY email via a PM !

    Thanks in advance !

    $...eE..$
     
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  14. oldgrasshopper, Dec 19, 2016

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    Now this I believe to be EXCELLENT and TRUE advice.
     
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  15. DeMango, Dec 19, 2016

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    Cmon Snake: The all sevens set!
    $5 Dave: Try the double pitch V2 if you have a problem with table bounce.
     
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  16. $nakeEye$, Dec 19, 2016

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    You did NOT read the criteria !

    there is one set you can use where if you single pitch you won't seven out , if you double pitch you won't seven out either
    I love that damned set a bunch

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    James Hall, Yesterday at 7:51 PM

    Therefore - The ALL 7 Dice Set - Does NOT MEET THAT criteria -

    As a Double Pitch = a 7 Out !

    i.e. - THAT was MY reason for my requesting James' expounding on this particular set !

    $...eE..$
     
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  17. DeMango, Dec 19, 2016

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    Double pitch on all 7's equal a hard way result. C'MON SNAKE!!!
     
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  18. $nakeEye$, Dec 19, 2016

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    Awaiting the " Official Response " regards the " Magic " dice set !

    $...eE..$
     
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  19. $nakeEye$, Dec 19, 2016

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    DUHHHHHH !

    Shame on ME !

    And I was looking for something a " little bit MORE in depth " !

    DUH !

    $...eE..$
     
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  20. James Hall, Dec 19, 2016

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    $....eE....$
    it's the dreaded all seven set
    set the dice ,,,left di with 5 up and 4 facing ,,,,right di 2 up 3 facing
    if the dice stay on or finish on axis , the only way to get a 7 is if the dice finish exactly the way you set them all around
    if the dice single pitch , you will get inside numbers , if the dice double pitch you get hardways
    when all else fails it is my go to set
     
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