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Discussion in 'Other Casino Games' started by Twelve4s, Jan 1, 2017.
Anyone seen this game in Vegas or your local joint?
Is it a slot machine?
I have played one. There is one in a racing in west memphis. Seen a lot of good rolls on there compared to the bubble machines. Quite entertaining to watch people really get into it shooting the dice. I actually like that one vs the bubble machines. Been a while since I have played there though.
slot machine, nothing random at all
I see that for the first time=)
legally it is a slot machine as is the bubble.
but functionally it "probably" uses RNGs and, if so it is not unlike VP or video roulette...with RNGs the outcomes would be indistinguishable from the table game or the bubble.
if outcomes are NOT based on RNGs and rather uses slot-like logarithms--unlikely IMO--players are being CHEATED (IMO) big time...if the latter were the case, not likely as i said, i would avoid the machine like the plague.
the problem there is that casinos are not exactly forthcoming with the outcome bases of their machines...now a major exception to that is most VP machines where a statement something like, "a standard 52 card deck" is the basis, indicating that indeed RNGs are used (anything else would not just be a big cheat but likely [& hopefully] illegal as well).
this basis in not exactly a state secret, however, & one could fairly easily find out if one were interested in playing and diligent enough, perhaps simply by asking a slot manager or tech or anyone who might be in the know...or by going to the manufacturer's web site.
on a related subject someone recently linked to an lv newspaper article in which a vice president of a big time slot manufacturer was quoted as saying that some of the new, true slot machines were now using RNGs instead of the traditional logarithms...
...this was certainly news to me...using logarithms, casino take percentages can be changed simply by changing the programming...using RNGs however the only way that their take can be changed is by changing the payouts...i found it all very interesting.
but then, i am easily entertained.
You can be sure that if an electronic device sits in a casino, its presence there is to create $$.
I would be not at all surprised if there are multiple ways in which the house can "adjust" these devices in order to remove more money from their users pocket.
For example, random number generators can be manipulated by modification of other component parts of the game in which they are used. The bottom line is as always the bottom line.
Unless they have changed their gaming laws in Florida over the past decade, I wouldn't play anything there. In Nevada I believe a game like that has to have the same odds of winning as the real thing. That's probably why I have never seen one of those in Nevada.
In some states they can set them however they want as long as they meet the min payout percentage for slot machines in that state.
Please correct me if I'm wrong as I don't spend many evenings studying gaming laws these days.
I think you are completely right, in other countries the legislation generally prohibits gambling and you have to play where it’s illegal, there really is pure fraud.