SMALL | TALL | Make em' ALL is coming to Canadian Casino's as early as next week!

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  1. Mssthis1, Apr 2, 2019

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    Even if that bet had 0 house edge, it's going to cause a great amount of volatility to the average persons bankroll. If you figure 100 rolls per hour and a random game that's $255 an hour bankroll drain if it doesn't hit at 5/5/5.

    The ATS may hit multiple times in an hour and then go many hours without a hit. That's just the nature of a longshot bet like that.
     
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  2. eagleeye2, Apr 2, 2019

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    BuckShot,

    Playing any gambling game against 20% ODDS is SUICIDE for ones Bankroll!

    SIMPLY do NOT play THEIR B.S. games

    eagleeye2
     
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    I agree with above (reaches for meds). Once again if you can’t find a set to consistently bang out horn numbers, you have no business making that bet. Try crossed sixes.
     
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  4. eagleeye2, Apr 2, 2019

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    Low Down on CRAPLESS CRAPS, simply more advantage for the CASINO'S!

    TRUE ODDS PAY-OFF FOR CRAPLESS CRAPS
    2 or 12 Pays 6:1
    3 or 11 Pays 3:1
    4 or 10 Pays 2:1
    5 or 9 Pays 3:2
    6 or 8 Pays 6:5


    As you can see from the above chart, if the three or eleven is established as the point, the correct true odds payoff is three to one. Using the same example as above, a five dollar line bet with double odds would pay a total of $35, five for the line bet and thirty for the free odds bet. The rest of the numbers pay the same as in a traditional game. Sounds good, right? But remember, the elimination of the eleven as a natural increases the Vig in this game.

    A pass line or come bet with double odds carries a Vig of 2.081% compared to 0.60% in the traditional game. Therefore, the line bet should be avoided on all players, until it’s your time to shoot the dice. Still, you should know the correct pay-off for those times when you are shooting the dice.

    This will also come into play with your buy bets.

    Now let’s take a look at place betting for Crapless Craps. Obviously, the traditional 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 bets are played – and paid exactly the same as in a standard game. The Vig on these bets is no different than what you are used to.

    The major difference in this game comes with the placing of the “extreme outside” numbers, the 2, 3, 11, and 12. The standard pay off odds for place bets on these numbers is as follows:

    EXTREME OUTSIDE PLACE BET ODDS
    2 or 12 Pays 11:2
    3 or 11 Pays 11:4

    Be very careful, some CASINO's are cutting these Payouts on CRAPLESS TABLES to 5 to 1 & 5 to 2 or less, on these bets.

    Know what you are playing, before dropping your Hard earned $$$ on a So Called CRAPLESS CRAPS Table.

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  5. BuckShot, Apr 2, 2019

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    Guy's, Stay tuned for more video's on the HEDGE2Invest strategy incorporating the ATS betting.
     
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  6. BuckShot, Apr 2, 2019

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    Craps Hedge2invest (ATS) All Small | All Tall | Make em’ All Strategy

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  7. BuckShot, Apr 2, 2019

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    Question? So I was at the casino this evening and one of the shooters rolled the "All TALL numbers"

    is this proper that they leave the original chip in play and they flip all the lamers over the all tall numbers and restart it,
     
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  8. The Midnight Skulker, Apr 3, 2019

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    I have seen this done when both sides have been completed (and winners paid) but have never seen it done and have to wonder how it's tracked when only one side is completed.
     
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  9. Mssthis1, Apr 3, 2019

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    I have never seen that. If the only betting was on the the tall, I could see them doing it. Some places reset if all the ATS action was hit, some don't. Some places allow late ATS bets if there was no previous action on any of the 3 bets, as in nobody at the table was betting it.

    Sooner or later someone will make the all and there will be a big bru ha ha because the person who approved paying and restarting the one side of the bet was tapped out and gone to break.
     
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  10. BuckShot, Apr 3, 2019

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    I think it was very stupid they did that because yes, if they go on break then who will account for the repeating bets. I'm not sure if it will be of any advantage to us but damn, it got many confused disrupting a good roll.
     
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  11. von duck, Apr 3, 2019

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    I think the question here, is, what did they do with the "wooden nickels", that were covering the "made numbers". If the numbers do not remain covered, it could be a ploy, to not pay an "all" bet, if the smalls are subsequently made. I've never seen this done, and I'll guarantee you, whatever the reason, it is NOT for the benefit of the players. :cool:
     
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    Only one person goes on break at a time. :)
     
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    No, it's not. I think you might be mistaken, about what happened. That is not the proper procedure. I would be leery, of any casino that ran the bet in such a manner. :confused:
    I have witnessed several times when the crew had to be reminded, to mark the "made" number. Most likely just an error, but keep your eyes peeled, if you're playing this bet. :cool:
     
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    Not unless the ALL TALL SMALL gets hit and they restart the entire thing. Some casinos will only let you bet the ALL once and if it hits then you can only bet the small / tall during the same roll. But I have never seen them restart in the middle of the roll when only one side is hit.

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  15. Edward-ky, Apr 4, 2019

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    One place I play when one side is hit you can Bet on that side again. It’s not that hard to track either once the crew is use to the bet. And most places don’t intentionally forget to mark the number. And you will find times where they forget to unmark a number if a 7 rolls on the come out. I seen that bet handled multiple different ways depending on the casino.
     
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    Yes, Casino's treat S T A Bets differently. Some allow a Re-Bet on Small or Tall, if it is hit during a ROLL, No (7) Out, others do not allow a Re-Bet.

    I once hit TWO SMALL's on one roll, not hitting the TALL & thus the All, during that Roll.

    The hits on ALL that I have seen do not allow a Re-Bet on it during a Roll.

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  17. BuckShot, Apr 4, 2019

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    They don't reset the entire ATS, just the part that gets rolled but it gets so confusing to track.
     
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