Stay Tuned!!! I will be sharing my latest Ultimate 66 Craps Strategy

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  1. TDVegas, Feb 27, 2019

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    Ain't that the truth. For about the last 10 days...bubble craps has been hot for my sessions. Long rolls, repeaters, lots of come out winners.

    Yesterday...well, she must have received a brain transplant the night before. Or a chip replacement:eek:....

    "Cold as ice" comes to mind. It's as if it was an entirely different "person"...and was she angry. LOL. There were only 2 people left standing...me and a dark side side player. He was smiling. The rest of the 5 burned thru bankroll faster than the Mesa boys dropping prop, hop and horn bets. IOW's, they were gone in 20 minutes, licking their wounds in the men's room.
     
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  2. James Hall, Feb 27, 2019

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    The Mesa boys don't play the machines.
    They would never be on a table past the first 7 ,
    They know when to start and when to stop.
    The Mesa guys know to never allow such things to happen.
    These occurrences you outlined show a very severe , "LACK OF TRAINING".
    Neva Neva hoppin , hoonyak.
     
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  3. James Hall, Feb 27, 2019

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    Too long , way too long. Standing for a 20 minute beating is beyond silly
    and they should never be in a restroom , "LICKING ANYTHING".
    What in the hell is wrong with you people???
     
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  4. tabletop123, Feb 27, 2019

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    That's the Secret to influencing the dice folks. Exit the table as SOON as you Seven Out. Lol

    Damn.......I thought that Old Top. was the fastest fleerer in the Dirty South. I AT LEAST give it TWO ATTEMPTS before I pack it up.

    The Mesa gang are definitely tossing the dice with a foot pointed towards the exit signs. lol
     
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  5. BuckShot, Feb 27, 2019

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    Brand new buyin part 1


    Brand new buyin part 2
     
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  6. James Hall, Feb 27, 2019

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    Over the years I have seen more than a bunch of good shooters ,
    win money on their throws then lose it all back plus all
    or part of their bankroll. Here in Mesa as a result of training
    we know not to do that. We know the best course of action is
    to win money on your toss then , WALK.
    The Mesa guys know that in all likelihood they are
    the only players on the table with training and skill ,
    they KNOW the futility of risking money hoping to win
    while betting on a totally random player.
    There are other things you would be well served to learn also.
    From your previous posts I would venture to say that
    in the long haul that has not worked out very well for you.
    You might want to consider a change in tac. / tactics.
    Yep , as you probably know , "TIME IS NOT ON THE SIDE OF THE PLAYER"
    Most players stay way beyond what is prudent.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Feb 27, 2019

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    A.) Vince, you do understand there is no strategic play that is going to allow you to win more money than you lose?...over time.

    If you don't....please disregard the post.

    While there are several strategies that will ensure MORE winning sessions than losing sessions...there is a hitch to that. The hitch is that your losing sessions will in all liklihood lose MORE money overall than your winning sessions.

    Again, if you don't understand this, please disregard the post.

    There are only 3 ways to ensure to "beat" the game...ie, overcome house edge.

    DI...
    cheat...
    Play with loaded dice....

    The 4th way to win....luck/variance. That's not "beating the game"....but it is winning.

    While I have no real issue with your strategy of four box numbers and pressing a win, etc....it really doesn't matter how many trials you put up. It will win at times and it will lose at times.

    What else are you looking for or suggesting?

    Just a note...the Mesa brawler can spare me the "why do you even play craps"? diatribe....especially since...
    My personal experience is 2-3 numbers covered (either right or dark side) is a decent way to play craps. It's enough risk....but not too much. Yours goes a bit over, but whatever. You want that extra number. Go for it. True to be told, the KKJ way of 1 number plus odds and press wins gets my vote if long term success is the end goal. See comment A.)
     
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  8. random_roller, Feb 27, 2019

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    There once was a DI from out west
    Who thought he was the very best
    He'd brag about winning
    In stories he was spinning
    Alas none saw him who could attest
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, Feb 27, 2019

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    and I lose more sessions than I win, but you gotta love those occasional (no rare) large winners.

    Excellent TDV, your first six paragraphs above state things as well as they can be said. ;)
     
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  10. KokomoJoe4, Feb 27, 2019

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    RR,

    What tune is this sung to?
     
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  11. random_roller, Feb 27, 2019

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    Loosely based upon a limerick: "There once was a man from Nantucket..."
     
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  12. tabletop123, Feb 27, 2019

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    Bingo!!!! Ya beat me to the punch!!! Lol
     
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  13. tabletop123, Feb 27, 2019

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    D flat!!!
     
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  14. tabletop123, Feb 27, 2019

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    I agree that " Time" is NOT on a player's side when In the Casinos. However, you keep bringing up this " NOT sticking around" because ya don't want to lose money on other players thingy.

    That's a very simple fix......DONT BET ON THEM. Problem solved!!!

    If pissing away money by betting on other players is a REAL concern.....STOP playing on crowded tables.

    You can apply the same skill on a empty/near empty table as you can on a crowded table.
    The best situation is a empty table. No late bets. Prop bets slowing down the pace of the game. No hands hanging over the rail. No chips in your landing zone.

    What's NOT to like about THAT? Toss, collect, exit, & NOT BET a friggin PENNY on the player ahead of you....In order to get the dice.

    To each his own, but MOST seasoned shooters NOT ONLY seek out the BEST BOUNCE characteristics......they ALSO seek out empty tables.

    Rick, ( G), Demango, Top, Mssthis.....you guys are doing things incorrectly by scouting for empty tables to ply your skill.

    Simply walk up to a crowded table, & toss the dice from WHATEVER position is available. Lol

    Ya just can't make this sh**t up. Lol

    James pre-post reply: Table position is of no importance to a REAL Stepper. A REAL Stepper can toss the dice onto the table KEEPING the dice " On Axis" whilst tossing from the Shitter.
     
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  15. James Hall, Feb 27, 2019

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    YEP for a trained and skilled player , there are not
    many things sillier than risking money on other player when
    in all likelihood you are the only skilled tosser there.
    EXACTLY , That's the only thing that makes sense.
    You toss the dice , make money on your throw then lose it back betting
    on 12 or more other players waiting for the dice to come back around.
    DON'T BET ON THOSE FOLKS. Problem solved.
    The number of players on a table is a non issue / doesn't matter.
    Toss the dice , color up and head for the HACIENDA.
    Yep so it is , as stated above , a non issue . Zero players 1 other player
    14 other players , non issue / doesn't matter.
    Nope doesn't matter , you should not be there long enough for that
    to be an issue. Toss the dice color up and leave.
    You are too easily distracted. None of that is a problem
    for , a , "STEPPER".
    Sometimes they might require YOU to make a bet on the 6 or 8
    I however have rarely found a problem in that regard.
    I have the , "TRIPLE HARD WAY" working for me so some times
    they will forgo that one for me. "BLESS THEIR HEARTS"
    "We BLESS a LOT OF HEARTS" in Texas.
     
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  16. James Hall, Feb 27, 2019

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    That is an absolute must , bounce characteristic is one of those things
    many untrained players overlook , much to their demise.
    In my case I have never found that to be an essential consideration.
    They may have their own reasons for doing what they do
    in my case it doesn't matter one way or the other.
    Empty , full , doesn't matter.
    Nope , I seriously doubt that would work well for them and I would
    very strongly suggest tossing from just any position , that could be
    a recipe for disaster. They should have one maybe too positions
    from which to throw avoiding all others.
    You got that right BUB but you do try.
    Nothing could be further from the truth ,
    with a little training you would know that.
    These friends of yours who tell you they can toss dice
    from the shitter and keep them on axis are undoubtedly , "SHITTING YOU"
    I would strongly suggest you see that happen before you start
    telling people they can do it. It might save you some embarrassment.
     
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  17. von duck, Feb 27, 2019

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    They go there, looking for a "foot tapper" to recoup some of their losses. :D
     
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  18. yacraps, Feb 27, 2019

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    ...who placed forty two across and if he did not win said @#$k it :oops:
     
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  19. BuckShot, Feb 28, 2019

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    Member request to Color up to black chips in the Ultimate66
     
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  20. random_roller, Feb 28, 2019

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    Limericks are great. So easily adaptable. Here's another one:

    There once was a Mesa DI, no fable
    Who bet $42 across at the craps table
    He'd set both the dice
    Shot 'em real pretty, real nice
    Point seven out was all he was able


    Perhaps the next one will start like this:

    There once was a Duck from Pinole...
     
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