TDVegas, I'm trying to set a meeting up with three guys that all post on the board at Boulder City for lunch today. Right now I'm waiting for a phone call from one of them . It will be with our wives so they can walk around and shop while we talk craps if that is what they want to do! So you're invited, yes I know that you would have to drive across Vegas to get to where we are meeting but that shouldn't be any problem for you to do! So once again look for my pm with phone number if you want to go!