Technology -- Then & Now

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  1. random_roller, Jan 23, 2020

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    Saw this archived Northgate Computer ad that had appeared in a May 1991 edition of InfoWorld. The $3,699 "Editor's Choice" PC was powered by an Intel 386 CPU operating at a base clock speed of 25 MHz...and it didn't even come with Microsoft Windows!! The bundled operating system was MS-DOS 4.1. The "Blue Screen of Death" (courtesy of Windows 3.1) was still on the horizon. The SlimLine 386SX-16/20 computers still had a 1.2 MB 5.25" Floppy Drive installed.

    Northgate made pretty good PCs and arguably the best keyboards outside of the ones that came with the early IBM PCs. Back in May 1991, 4 MB of RAM & a 100 MB hard drive was considered pretty darn good. I'd say personal computer technology has tremendously improved over since that those days and is downright affordable compared to back then.

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  2. basicstrategy777, Jan 23, 2020

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    I'd hate to tell you what I paid for an IBM computer and a car phone back in the 80's.....but in the 80's, everybody had lots of money.

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  3. TDVegas, Jan 23, 2020

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    CAD stations were selling for $10-15K in the late 80’s early 90’s. 30 years later....the computer and monitor is $750 and the software is $500...and you can’t even compare the speeds and storage to yesterday.
     
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  4. random_roller, Jan 23, 2020

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    I remember reading Computer Shopper back in the early 80s. Some crazy high prices for PCs (compared with today) and what you got for the money (again, compared with today) wasn't a whole heck of a lot. But at least you could play Flight Simulator...
     
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  5. random_roller, Jan 23, 2020

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    Amazing what can be done with Autocad, Maya, Blender and other similar software. Helps that this current generation of computer hardware is amazing. AMD has done a 180 the past 3 years (after 10+ years of futility). Ryzen 3xxx CPUs are unbelievably powerful and to AMD's credit, it's not price gouging like Intel did back when it faced no competition in the high end desktop (HEDT) market.

    I'm going to build a new AMD-based PC in the near future, once some of the glitches in the new motherboards have been worked out. A long-awaited new version of Flight Simulator is expected this year -- that's my excuse for upgrading, lol. Need that 4K monitor (and capable GPU).

    https://www.flightsimulator.com/ -- check out the screenshots from an early beta.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jan 24, 2020

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    I held onto my original cell phone. Not sure why. Nevertheless. Maybe 1996'ish?

    Side by side....then and now

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  7. random_roller, Jan 24, 2020

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  8. yacraps, Jan 24, 2020

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    LOL..for some reason those phones remind me of somebody's :rolleyes:
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, Jan 27, 2020

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    Now don't laugh, but less the antenna, that flip phone is the one I have.

    Back in about 2001 when I had a pager, the Mrs. bought me the only portable phone I have ever owned. Have no use for the thing other than taking an occasional emergency call.
     
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  10. Mssthis1, Jan 27, 2020

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    I'm currently using a galaxy s4 that's 6 years old. when it croaks I'm going back to my old flip phone, It's stored in my gadget drawer. One good thing about the Chinese, they picked up the replacement battery market for old devices they wish we'd just toss and buy new.

    I used to have an Apple II that we used to control a 1250 ton automated press at the factory. Used it until the plant closed in 2008 and I got it with the rest of the electronics when they auctioned everything off.

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  11. TDVegas, Jan 27, 2020

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    The battery on that phone is probably more than a 1/2" thick and takes up the entire back of the phone. I just noticed it is also cracked. I'm not even sure how or when that happened...I thought it was in pristine condition. Can't go to the museum now:mad:

    I had the original iPhone and I vowed to hold onto it for as long as possible. Sadly, Apple started not supporting or updating the software and every app I tried downloading was rejected. Same thing happened with the replacement after a couple years. Apple is notorious for "early, forced retirement" of their products. This is the 7?....and I'll attempt to "stretch it".

    I got rid of my desktop computer 2 years ago. Grew tired of constantly updating malware, virus software and fighting a losing battle with PC's. Haven't had a need to even print anything anymore. iPhone, iPad.
     
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  12. random_roller, Jan 27, 2020

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    Apple makes some excellent products, but it's closed & limited ecosystem and use of proprietary items (e.g., lightning connection) is a deal-breaker for me. I enjoy upgrading computers and tweaking settings, which I can easily do on a Windows PC. The strength -- and weakness -- of PCs & Android is its diversity. There is certainly a lot of garbage in the PC & Android marketplace given the large number vendors -- not that Apple hasn't had its share of clunkers. Compromises have to be made because of the huge variety of devices that are supported. Fortunately, there are also excellent items available at appreciably better prices than corresponding Apple products.

    As for Apple prematurely designating products as "end-of-life", planned obsolescence is in every successful company's arsenal. That being said, Apple is in a much better position to implement this than most companies, since it controls both the hardware & software (including the app store).

    Update those apps on your iPhone 7 in advance of the inevitable "lock-out", lol.
     
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  13. random_roller, Jan 27, 2020

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    IMO, the Samsung Galaxy S4 is one of the best phones in the brief history of smart phones. It has a great screen that, years after it first came out, is still better than those on some current Android offerings. Loved the removable battery. My GS4 is still in very good condition and serves as a backup. It even outlasted its replacement (HTC 10).

    Before you toss any old Apple computer, check to see if there's a market for it.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/23/vin...0000-you-might-have-one-in-your-basement.html
     
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  14. yacraps, Jan 27, 2020

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    I think I am in your category...I have and use a Pantech breeze 3...did I here some one say dinosaur :rolleyes:
     
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  15. TDVegas, Jan 27, 2020

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    I liked Apple products because, as inane as it sounds...I loved their design. Jobs was the king of making sure the outside looked as good as the inside performed. The sleek, minimal design attracted me. I don't have a desire to tweak computers....and the closed system kind of shit canned the virus guys in Slovakia.

    The negative is life span. I'm on my 3rd phone and my 2nd iPad....and I foresee a 3rd one coming soon. Apple isn't big on updating software on older products. Out with the old seems to be the mentality.

    The cost on Apple products can also be a negative. I could probably get an equivalent Dell for close to 1/3 the price. In any event...I've become an Apple guy ....starting around 2005 when I bought an iPod. I held onto my Desktop PC long afterwards...but that's gone now.
     
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  16. random_roller, Jan 28, 2020

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    Years ago, slot machines were mechanical and featured reels and levers. They didn't have computer chips or high definition 4K screens. Outside of being highly addictive (and getting players to part with their money), modern slot machines represent a vast departure from the analog world of yesteryear's one arm bandits. The newest generation of slot machines are basically networked video games that accept Benjamins rather than quarters while tracking play. Take that, Atari! In order to properly function, modern slot machines require low power, high performance CPUs & graphics chips.

    AMD has had a group that produces embedded chips for a variety of customers, including (casino) gaming vendors. Intel has a similar group. AMD chips have also powered gaming consoles for years and will be featured in the upcoming Xbox and Playstation devices scheduled to be released later this year. While both companies are far better known for CPUs that power millions of computers every year, their processors are also embedded in slot machines (and now electronic table games) that have become increasingly sophisticated, albeit highly specialized electronic devices.

    So the next time you walk past a slot machine, understand this: there might be more CPU/ graphics technology inside than what powers your home computer.

    AMD Embedded Digital Casino Gaming
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  17. mynameisgambling, Mar 20, 2020

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    ^ Interesting. And here I've thought completely the opposite, that the very computer I have that lets me access online sites, old and new like this page, is more powerful than the ones you would see in a brick and mortar casino.
    As for phones, I always thought Apple was better than Android in providing support for their phones. There is support for at least five years compared to Android that lapses after 2 or 3. I hope more companies take on the mentality though of creating products that are for life, with the occasional update every now and then. Good for the pocket, and for the eco-conscious. the world.
     
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