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Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by TDVegas, Dec 15, 2016.
Also, a good way to decimate your bankroll! Lol
BTL- I like their buffet at Red Rock but the last time I was there they had trampoline craps tables so I just watched.
The tables at RedRock are not for players like you or anybody else! But you will always see those that don't know any better playing there! That casino is losing money because you can't keep the dice on the table and they are too stupid to know that they make their money from rolls per hour and if the dice are not on the tables they are not making money!
Very bouncy tables at the Red Rock. Every 10 minutes or so, someone is chasing the dice on the floor from one of the tables. I refuse now to chase dice or pick them up off the floor. Everyone reading this should also refuse to chase dice too.
Perhaps when they are tired of paying people to chase dice, then they may fix the tables to not be so bouncy.
That is simply wrong. Not only is Red Rock casino the best, highest earning casino among their portfolio of properties....The company as a whole posted their best profits last Q3, 2016.
You really should not say things like that unless you have facts at your disposal.
I'll dig up the financials later. Last Q was .20...plus they are now paying a dividend to shareholders. They are not "losing" anything.
Plus, betweenthelines did pretty awesome there on the tables. Bounce didn't effect him negatively at all.
They're not losing money, but only made 20 cents last quarter. That's due to TDV killing them at the bubble!
Yes...the analysts actually projected .26. That .06 went to TDV last Q.
It's been a good year. Plus all that coin I took off them with the Cubbies winning.
Rick should really do some fact checking before he says these things. Makes him look uninformed.
I played at Red Rock the first time visiting there, and watched BTL play the second time I was there. I didn't notice anything unusual about the dice being thrown off the table either time. Or that the table was extra bouncy, but not being a DI, I suppose I wasn't paying that much attention to it.
As I have a few avenues to check...I do believe Red Rock Casino is their number 1 profit producing property---and if I'm not mistaken it's by a long shot.
Bouncy tables my arse....
Not slowing down anything.
These are the same nonsense reports we get when someone has a bad session at a particular casino....and then he advises all to avoid that property.
Maybe it's just possible you just had real bad luck? Don't use your bad luck as an excuse to tell people not to gamble at certain properties.
Like you OAP, when I was with tom...I saw nothing outrageous in terms of bounce or dice leaving the table.
Look you take everything someone writes out of context, I was only writing about the craps table and you should have known that! A casino is not going to lose money only because of one of their casinos game but if they are offering a game that nobody is going to play unless they know no better they are going to be losing money that they could make off of a good game for the players and casinos.
I put up a post asking about what state has the best Black Jack in the country there was a good reason for doing so and I will post back to it when it starts going down hill with the answer. There are a lot of stupid table games managers out there that don't understand the game that they operate. Oh, sure they might know one or two of the game in the pit but the never dealt craps!
You are one of these guys that can't see past your own nose. You read into every post that someone makes and try to turn it around to suit yourself!
So is that where you were playing craps with your stupid challenge or did you play elsewhere?
Cmon....when you state "that casino is losing money"....
I'm not taking anything out of context. Those are your words.
If what you really mean is you think they could make more if the tables were less bouncy....that's a different story.
Again, not sure I would or could agree with that unless I had the table data and did some comparison as to how many times the dice jumped the table per hour vs. another property. I'm certainly not just going to throw a guess out there...or state emphatically "they are losing money".
When was the last time you were there and observed this?
I really see way too much uninformed guessing....stated as completely factual. Maybe that's my problem...then again, this is how these stupid rumors get started like when someone posted you can't set dice at Bally's.
You're sitting there telling all these forum members "don't play at Red Rock".....
When the basis for that is pretty specious.
Tomp did awesome there. I guess he didn't know any better
It's nice to see that the both of us have nothing better to do then sit at our computers and write back in forth about the RedRock casino! Here is what you will never get any time the casinos slows down the game of craps they are losing money. It could be a stupid suit wanting the dealers to flip the dice a few times before they give them back to the shooter or any other stupid thing that they will do because of silly superstitions!
But if you do read a book on dealing the game right there in that book you will find that they say to flip the dice, I would advise you to spend some time in our libraries reading on casino management not everything in black and white!
I don't care how you do it, but the only way to beat the table is
to quit while you are ahead.
OK, this is what I'm not understanding then. You say win consistently and I saw...I think 95%? You mean you walk away a winner over 9 times in 10?
This is what I would do. You can play your 1-2 hits. Stop. 1-2 hits. Stop...for 5 times a day.
In month 1-3...play $6 on the 6-8. If you are right and you win consistently...you will build up winnings. (bankroll)
In month 4-6...play $12 on the 6-8. If you are right and you win consistently...you will build up more winnings. (bankroll)
In month 7-9...play $18 on the 6-8. If you are right and you win consistently...you will build up even more winnings. (bankroll)
In month 10-12...play $24 on the 6-8. If you are right and you win consistently...you will build up more and more winnings. (bankroll)
In month 13-15...play $30 on the 6-8. If you are right and you win consistently...you will build up more and more and more winnings. (bankroll)
In month 16-18...play $36 on the 6-8. If you are right and you win consistently...you will build up more and more and more and more winnings. (bankroll)
In month 20-22...play $42 on the 6-8. If you are right and you win consistently...you will build up more and more and more and more winnings. (bankroll)
In month 175-177...play $300 on the 6-8....
and so forth...You can always regress the amounts after a losing month. Start back one step.
This would be a Kelly type strategy. Why would this not work for you? Granted, the ONLY issue is your terminology "consistent". I'm not sure what 95% means. This strategy does not have to work each time. You can lose sessions...but those losses will be offset by your bankroll buildup and the fact that you are still retaining a 95% win rate.
I can't do it...but someone can apply 95% to this entire scenario and work up what your dollar expectations will be.
Whoaaaaaa! I never said that I WIN 95% of the time! If I did say THAT (i am getting up in age) it's a COMPLETE lie! Ain't happening!
What I did say is that I WIN at a pretty nice clip because I leave as soon as 1-3 hands ( of my own shooting) has concluded!
I'm no good at keeping my Dice "On Axis", but I am pretty skilled at walking to the Cashier's cage "On Axis", BEFORE the old Nut Clipping prevails! World Class in THAT department!
However, I DID get my nuts clipped during my last outing . SHIT HAPPENS! Lol
Gargoil keep your f'ing mouth shut and stay out of this one. I am warning you.
OK, maybe my mistake...I could have sworn I saw 95% in one of your posts. Maybe I mis-read it.
Bohunk 6 keeps going on in this thread, but really what is so funny about something that proved nothing at all is that they never wrote where they were playing it, but of course I could have missed it if they did but I'm not going back and reading the whole thing!
No, the funny thing is they never said how much was won or lost on the tables they were playing on trying to get their stupid thing done!
So, with that said TDVegas how much did it cost you to play out your little fantasy TDVegas? We want to know how much you won on the tables or how much you lost and where did all of this take place and while we're at it how many hours did you have to play?
Wanna hear something unusual? A guy steps up to a table, gets the dice & bets $360 inside! Gets two inside hits, passes the dice, colors up, & heads to the cage!
How many Di's, or players can play this way? Not many! Why? Simply because they yearn to toss the dice, socialize, & have fun.
Remember......it's ONLY entertainment, Right? No one really EXPECTS to win, right? Don't know about the winning part, but I DEFINITELY EXPECT TO FLEE........first chance that I get!
It's NO FUN being in a Casino with Old Top! I would just simply be Labeled as a "Party Crasher"