The Dom. A 26% edge

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  1. Dave G Ct, Jun 27, 2016

    Dave G Ct

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    You can put me in that group!
     
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  2. KokomoJoe4, Jun 27, 2016

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    oh boy............
     
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  3. lone irish digit, Jun 27, 2016

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    You got to remember the perspective Dave is coming from. He is saying/or should be saying the 44% on axis benchmark is the result of the outcomes of the top 2 faces only regardless of the orientations or outcomes of the other faces of the dice.
     
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  4. James Hall, Jun 27, 2016

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    Very very good LID , you have given this some thought
    beneath that rough exterior is a very keen working mind that you try oh so hard to disguise
    That describes exactly what controlled throw is all about
    After all is said and done , and the dice have come to rest the top 2 faces are all that matters
    Listen to this man everybody he knows of which he speaks
    I'm going to put that in my book
     
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  5. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 27, 2016

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    So, let me get this straight...

    I roll the dice, and if the two faces come up with a desired result, then I am a DI. And, if not then I need to try harder.

    You guys just keep playing Craps in your head! Is there anyone in there that actually plays REAL Craps in a REAL casino?
     
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  6. twodicebilly, Jun 27, 2016

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    Craps is no different than most things in life,a guy sees an 8 point
    buck, after a few rounds of the story it was a 10 pointer, or a 24"
    walleye gets to be 30" in a hurry. people are all human....

    I have heard a number of these guys make off hand remarks about
    their advantage,,, in one ear and out the other....the only thing that
    matters is what happens to the money I have at risk.

    I can tell you one thing... if anyone tells you they have a 13% advantage or
    a 26% advantage no matter what table they play on, I have prime
    florida (dry) land to sell you.

    twodicebilly
     
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  7. betwthelines, Jun 27, 2016

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    absolutely brilliant, LID!! the top two faces are all that matters...i too bow to your genius!

    why, you've even gotten through to mr hall. congratulations! even he gets the brilliance of it...yes, i'm sure as heck gonna put this in my book too...

    tom p
    -g. geist: well, there you go...you finally learned something
    --tom p: yah, pretty good, huh?
    ---g. geist:
    ----tom p: hmmm...le'see...now where is that darn book anyways?...was layin' roun' here som'eres...
    -----g. geist:
    ------tom p: what?
    -------g. geist:
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Jun 27, 2016

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    We pay on Outcomes. Pass it along
    to Mr. Space travel.
     
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  9. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 28, 2016

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    LOL - Now you know how Heavy and Howard operate, and how most so self-acclaimed "DI" get those long rolls - IT'S ALL BIG FISH STORIES.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. Bases loaded, Jun 28, 2016

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    betwthelines, I hadn't seen your sarcastic side until recently.

    Maybe it was always there and I missed it (truly good sarcasm!) or I just haven't seen enough of your posts.

    I'm just noting this, nothing more.
     
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  11. James Hall, Jun 28, 2016

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    Gotten thru to Mr Hall I seriously doubt that , he simply stated what I have been preaching to the chunker / random crowd all along The know nothings who have no understanding of
    ON AXIS ROLLS you know the voodoo dependent crowd who rely on LUCK. the rabbet's foot rubbers those few who feel that any skill is beyond their grasp the ones who rely on the skilled to produce those variances that are so vital to success

    Instead of just saying thank you they insist on denigrating the people who make winning possible for them and walk away saying ,,"just luck , Nobody can win "
    You know who keeps saying that now don't you
     
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  12. Craps Poopshoot, Jun 28, 2016

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  13. twodicebilly, Jun 28, 2016

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    Are you suggesting these guys never get a good roll.???
    I am not, I expect they do. All I said is that most of us are
    human ( except TDV and Onautopilot) and we all are
    inclined to add a tad to a story.

    I would rather all people get on here and share their
    results, good or bad. I enjoy sharing the success of
    others and even my good fortunes at the table.

    What I don't like about some of the craps schools
    is they don't tell the whole story, and at times the
    story they do tell is a little brighter than reality
    would suggest is reasonable to expect.



    twodicebilly
     
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  14. Onautopilot, Jun 28, 2016

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    And some of those "humans" add a whole chapter to their "story"....cloaked in BS!
     
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  15. twodicebilly, Jun 28, 2016

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    sorry


    I got you pegged, you one of those old guys standing by
    the rail over-looking a river to impress some women you
    send those pics to.

    You don't impress me. I have more than a gutt feeling
    very few people do anything well enough for you.

    autoguy..... people like you make a life out of
    finding fault with others, that way you never have to
    try anything yourself..

    twodicebilly
     
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  16. TDVegas, Jun 28, 2016

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    Some don't believe you are a dice influencer nor can you influence dice. I mean it's not like they have any evidence or anything, right???

    Oooops, the game has not changed in 150 years, players can still set dice to their hearts content and toss however they want. The casinos don't even acknowledge the craft. There are no players in the black book. Shall I go on?

    But, we should just believe a guy who just admitted to exaggeration....?

    LOL.

    Why are you even concerned that others don't necessarily believe you can influence the dice?
     
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  17. Onautopilot, Jun 28, 2016

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    I have done more things in my life than you will ever dream of doing! I only find fault where fault is evident, some people might be well advised to pay attention to some of that fault finding!

    You are evidently a DI wannabee, no problem with that! I wish you luck at trying to employ that skill. And if you do, maybe you will not find it necessary to come on here and brag about it, you might just go to the casino and use it instead!
     
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  18. twodicebilly, Jun 28, 2016

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    auto guy

    thanks for the post...... did I have you pegged or
    what??????

    todicebilly
     
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  19. James Hall, Jun 28, 2016

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    you mentioned their fault finding , it is actually a character flaw
    people who find it difficult to succeed in anything find it difficult to accept someone else's accomplishments
    so to feel better about themselves
    they try to denigrate you and make an effort to convince you that what you are doing is impossible and try to convince you and others that you are wasting your time
    You can see that trend in everything they post
    there whole world is wrapped up in an effort to bring everyone else down to their level
    It's to difficult for them to make the effort to succeed and they cannot tolerate any degree of success from anyone around them
    You need to forgive them and go on
     
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  20. James Hall, Jun 28, 2016

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    Twodicebilly
    he said he hopes you're successful which is untrue but if you are don't come on here talking about it
    he doesn't want to hear it
    pretty shallow
     
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