The New Whale In The Desert!

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by DeMango, Jan 16, 2018.

  1. DeMango, Jan 16, 2018

    DeMango

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    Some people are just too modest. Harley is one of them. Strange but true and here is the proof:

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/the-craps-“put-bet-”-is-it-a-good-or-bad-bet.9263/#post-44250

    If you don't want to go there, a brief synopsis. The subject is the put bet. Here is Harley's opinion:

    interesting THG and very good analysis !! .... I only use Put bets when my regular Place bets have hit table max during a roll. I have had no problem with Bellagio and Caesars accepting Put Bets in LV. ....... At LV Harrah's - one shift Pit Boss allowed it, another shift did not in the same week.

    My reply

    Gotta be one of the most humble posts in the history of Harley. Making put bets when he is maxxed out with place bets at Caesars and Bellagio. Let that sink in for a second. Harley the new Whale in The Desert!
     
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  2. tabletop123, Jan 16, 2018

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    Didn't he just remodel the back seat of his truck?
     
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  3. TDVegas, Jan 16, 2018

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    It would be nice if these guys would just be honest with themselves. It comes off as wholly ridiculous when posts like this are made when certain knowledge of facts is known differently.

    Is there something lacking where you need to project yourself as a whale or big player when just about everyone knows differently So what?...you bet $5 chips. Really a need to present yourself as tossing around pumpkins when they are really red or white chips?
     
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  4. DeMango, Jan 16, 2018

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    You know, quite a few of us have been to quite a few dice boards. Sometimes it's easy to spot someone with a different handle. Sometimes a few hints, then there is "Duh!"
     
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  5. $nakeEye$, Jan 16, 2018

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    Essentially, a " PUT BET " is a COME BET which is made without going thru the Come Box -

    Hence it is " PUT " on the Box Number - whereupon FULL ODDS can then be taken on that bet -

    Same as the Come Bet which traveled to a point number !

    The FLAT portion is paid 1 to 1 and the ODDS portion is paid at TRUE ODDS !


    A ' PLACE BET " on the established can be accomplished in Two Ways -

    One by having the dealer PLACE you bet directly on the Box Number -


    OR - by YOU - placing your bet ON THE LINE of the Pass Line box nearest to you -

    The bet when won is paid in the Exact Same Manner as if the Dealer Placed the bet in the Place Bet area on the layout !


    Usually, the PUT BET - if allowed - is used when your Place Bet reached Table Max and you want to wager More Money on a number(s) !

    AND is BEST used when ODDS are wagered in addition to the Flat portion.


    $...eE..$
     
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  6. Mssthis1, Jan 17, 2018

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    A come bet is a 2 to 1 in your favor bet if you reach that point where you have a come or put bet on every box number.

    Come bet is 8 ways to win, 4 ways to lose, everything else is a push if you already have all six box numbers covered with come bets or put bets.

    If you're going to be betting that large in Vegas the North table at Cromwell is the place play. A $5 flat, $500 odds 5 or 9 pays $755 instead of the $707 for a $505 place bet. The $50 difference adds up over time.

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  7. von duck, Jan 17, 2018

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    Everything else is a push if you already have 6 box numbers? I'm pretty sure a 7 would not equal a push in this situation. Win 1 lose 6 plus odds if you had taken them. Brilliant post TD. :)
     
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  8. James Hall, Jan 17, 2018

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    The other side of that , is the fact that it just takes too long to get the coverage
     
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  9. random_roller, Jan 17, 2018

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    Refresh my memory -- did you also claim Night Attack and betwthelines were the same person? :oops:
     
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  10. Bases loaded, Jan 17, 2018

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    Ouch.
     
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  11. random_roller, Jan 17, 2018

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    Duck has made some good points, several of which I have acknowledged in the past, but it appears he/she thinks there are quite a few posting under multiple IDs. Perhaps that is the case in a few instances, but not on that one (and I doubt TDVegas & Mssthis1).
     
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  12. TDVegas, Jan 17, 2018

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    He likes to troll....make up crap to get a reaction. On the multiple ID claims?...He probably doesn't believe it himself....but trolls will troll regardless.

    Mssthis and I have played bubble craps together in Vegas.
     
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  13. Bases loaded, Jan 17, 2018

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    Agree!

    I don't get into that sock puppet stuff. Some here immediately declare a new poster a puppet, or clone.

    Doesn't change anything for me.
     
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  14. TDVegas, Jan 17, 2018

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    I only have 1 multiple ID suspect...and it involves a guy who is no longer able to post under his original ID. Can't be 100% sure..just mighty suspicious.

    Wasn't sock puppets attributed to anyone who backed up Heavy on this board?
    As in "Heavys sock puppets"....
     
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  15. Mssthis1, Jan 17, 2018

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    After a bet has gone through the come box and went to a number it is no longer a come bet. I was talking about one specific bet in one specific situation only.

    Tell Hall to unbutton his shirt or clean the lint out of his belly button so you can see better.
     
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  16. von duck, Jan 17, 2018

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    They were, and he admitted it, in one of the last posts he made. I thought that was pretty big of him, and it was the first indication to me, that something really serious might be wrong. :cool: He did it in a way that I would know, but I doubt if anyone else picked up on it. I have seen NA posts since, but I believe them to be an imposter. TomP, would be a very tough act to follow, even tougher to imitate.
     
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  17. James Hall, Jan 17, 2018

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    One day you are going to wake up and realize that playing come bets is a very slow and bankroll draining way to play the game
    As the , "GREAT ONE" once said the , "THE COME BET SUCKS" AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COST
    Very good advice for us all

    Sometime when you are in a casino , take a look at the layout on your favorite table and ask yourself this question

    Why would the casino make the come bet the largest bet layout on the table , then also print that bet in red
    and while you are doing that see what other bets are also displayed in red and ask yourself why
    The come bet and all the bets most people consider to be sucker bets are displayed the same way , "WHY"
     
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  18. von duck, Jan 17, 2018

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    What the hell is it, if it is not a come bet? What's it called? :) It's still a come bet, just has a last name ie come 9, come 5, etc. Oh yeah, and it still SUCKS!
     
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  19. Onautopilot, Jan 17, 2018

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    If anyone posts something that aligns with TDV's position, Duck immediately starts addressing them as TDV. He knows differently, but he likes to stir the pot....troll, it sometimes gets him some attention, which he relishes.
     
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  20. von duck, Jan 17, 2018

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    I doubt it too, but there is some connection, not sure what it is.
     
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