The US Has Been Infiltrated By The Chinese Communist Party, FBI ARRESTS US Academics In On The Take

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    The US Has Been Infiltrated By The Chinese Communist Party, FBI ARRESTS US Academics In On The Take

    The US Has Been Infiltrated By The Chinese Communist Party, FBI ARRESTS US Academics In On The Take. For the past several decades America has been extracted by selfish politicians and personalities bent on making the quickest buck. We all sat by as our manufacturing base was sold to foreign interests and politicians paved the way for the outsourcing of our jobs and production. In the past several months the FBI has arrested several US academics for taking money from Communist China and lying about it. Researchers and scientists have sold our secrets for a personal profit, they have built labs in a foreign country and helped pop up an authoritarian regime in China. In their own words the Chinese minister of propaganda has called on the country to spread propaganda around the world and it has worked. Whether youre a democrat or republican this issue affects us all and if left ignored we will lose to an autocratic and authoritarian regime that has no regards for civil rights. The far left activists in the US can complain all they want but China’s record is several orders of magnitude worse. Whether you like Trump or not, what is going on with China must be addressed and its time Democrats joined the bipartisan battle to stop their encroachment. #China #Trump #Democrats SUPPORT JOURNALISM. Become a patron at http://www.timcast.com/donate

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    https://videos.whatfinger.com/2020/...arty-fbi-arrests-us-academics-in-on-the-take/

    This is fresh this evening. (seems surreal)
     
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  2. yacraps, Feb 28, 2020

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    'Whether you like Trump or not, what is going on with China must be addressed and its time Democrats joined the bipartisan battle to stop their encroachment."
    I don't know why people cant remember the mid 90s...and the presidents that helped to enpower China and de power the U.S. and its job and manufacturing economy
     
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    I went to work each day and watched and listened as this country just gave up it's superiority, a natural superiority and shook my head in disbelief. EACH day as the GOVERNMENT gave up our livelihoods. All the WHAT? Steel mills closed????? It's cheaper to ship oar over there and ship steel back??? WHAT??? These politicians screwed us and got rich in the process.
     
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  4. random_roller, Feb 29, 2020

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    When I read about those railing against China for the economic "problems" it is creating for the US, my initial reaction is to ask Americans to first look in the mirror. American consumers want low price (inexpensive) goods and lots of them. Period. The US is home to ** by far ** the most materialistic people on the planet (perhaps galaxy), bar none.

    Why do you think Walmart -- and now Amazon -- has been so successful for years even though the manufacturing base began leaving the US in the 50s & 60s? Walmart sells the low price (inexpensive) goods that the vast majority of American consumers are buying. Those low price (inexpensive) goods are mostly being made in other parts of the world where manufacturing costs are much lower and work place & environmental regulations lax (or non-existent). Many of the labor practices prevalent in apparel company factories overseas would be flat-out illegal in the US. Would you be willing to work in a factory for under $1 US per hour? Apparently there are quite a few people in the rest of the world who want to do just that.

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    http://thehigherlearning.com/2015/0...imes-more-per-hour-than-workers-in-indonesia/

    If you want accountability on why the industrial base of the US has been decimated since the Korean War ended, there is plenty of blame to go around right here in the US. Politicians, business leaders, unions, Wall Street, ambulance chasers...the list goes on and on. If you have studied the US steel industry, part of the problem was certainly caused by foreign companies dumping steel in the US market. However, those foreign companies didn't prevent US steel companies from investing in newer technologies that would have helped keep them competitive. Executive bonuses, Wall Street short-term expectations, ridiculous Union contracts, more stringent environmental regulations and the like stopped those investments.

    Unfortunately, our priorities are often so screwed up we (as a society) frequently end up shooting ourselves in the foot. Professional sports teams pay star players tens of millions of dollars a year for playing a damn game. Same goes for record & movie companies paying entertainers per release. Wall Street bankers making hundreds of millions of dollars in annual bonuses. Meanwhile, teachers in inner city public schools barely scrape by. Yup, way screwed up priorities. But until the US consumer changes and shows a willingness to pay significantly higher prices for manufactured goods, the manufacturing base isn't (ever) coming back to the US. At least not like it was in the early 1900s. Hopefully, we won't lose our competitive edge in farming, technology and services (e.g., banking/finance, gambling/entertainment, medicine, graduate school education) or we'll really be SOL.
     
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  5. MisterInside, Feb 29, 2020

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    Great post, RR.......

    I'd like to add that for manufacturing to return to the US in a big way, Americans would have to be prepared to work for a lower wage. That ain't happening. We are too addicted to our phones, cars, clothes, toys and homes in the suburbs to make that sacrifice.
     
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  6. Settingcanthurt, Feb 29, 2020

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    Bloomberg's chart is purposely eliminating European countries to bolster the narrative of this article, whatever that may be. Either way it makes it unrealistic.
     
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    As well as the value of the wages paid in each country is not mentioned so what did they do to offset the value of wages paid in these countries. Do not value their currencies against ours. Value it against what their currencies will buy in their countries. The basics. Shelter/ food/ clothing. most do not use toilet paper.
     
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    If everyone except those who cannot work, worked. If dependent people were not supported by our wages weather in this country or not. Wages can be less without taxes paid out at such a high rate. It costs most of us over $300 a month in taxes to live in the houses we own. Many of these people in these countries would live like kings with this money.
     
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    The chart is fine as it is. The US is listed primarily for comparison purposes because of the target audience of the article (US readers). Western Europe labor costs would be quite high, too, although not at US levels.

    Most of the manufacturing base in key industries (steel, textiles, appliances & electronics, household goods, etc.) has long since left the US (and Europe) and is now largely situated in those "less developed" countries listed in the chart. Western Europe faces many of the same issues as the US in terms of manufacturing costs and regulations, but people there in general are nowhere near as materialistic and can enjoy a similar (and sometimes better, or at least happier) quality of life even while working fewer hours per week. The real kicker is many European workers *start* with 6 weeks of vacation on day 1, in addition to bank holidays.

    If I was President of the US, I would strongly encourage Americans (particularly high school students) to travel to other countries and see how other people in the world live. It would be a eye-opening, perhaps life-changing experience for the vast majority.
     
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    Yeah, working for less money almost certainly isn't going to happen in the US. Everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie so they can keep up with the Joneses.

    And good luck getting Americans to give up Starbucks, Netflix / ESPN / HBO, luxury cars, 4K TVs, etc. I'm as guilty as the next person, though, as I have more crap than I really need. At least I'm still making do on an 11+ year old 42" HDTV. It's not even 4K...
     
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