Please correct me where I'm wrong. Although different: Vigorish being a commission and house edge being odds less than true odds. Aren't they the same thing? Why I ask is how can craps sites such as wizard of odds, next shooter and craps pit; all say that the house edge on laying the 4 or 10 (and paying 5% commission up front regardless of result) is only 2.44%. How can in not be 5% house edge? Your paying 5% commission to get true odds so that is the house edge period. If there are any learned friends out there who can help me out I'd be very grateful. Are all these so called experts on these websites wrong or am I way off the mark?