When People Who Can’t Get Butthurt in Aruze Bubble Craps

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  1. TR31

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    I posted many times on how to beat Aruze Bubble Craps and I will highlight my main points:

    - play the game like a slot machine and reap the slot reward benefits. I have stated many times I lose on the game but make it up (and then some) from slot reward clubs. I have recently posted photos where I got over $900+ in free slot play (“FSP” where each FSP is worth roughly $0.97 on the dollar). Right now, for every $100 in FSP, I am losing about $30 or netting $70 per $100 in FSP.

    - find the machine in the right condition to maximize your chances of non-random rolls. I have posts over 100+ rolls where the results were disproportionately (6,7,8). I have people like onautopilot who claimed he could do sophisticated math / statistical tests to show that my rolls are indeed random. I have been posting photos of my (6,7,8) results and onautopilot has been silent on this issue but onautopilot has no problems making personal attacks against me.

    - learn to maximize bets that are not available in Live Craps to create hedges that are not possible in Live Craps. Hedge Equity is your friend. Recall a Don’t Pass or Don’t Come bet that becomes a point pays 1.0 : 1.0 aka even money but a Place or Buy bet on box number(s) pay greater than 1.0 : 1.0 such that you have created Hedge Equity IF YOU PUT ON HEDGE CORRECTLY!!

    For example, suppose you bet $20 on the Don’t Pass and the shooter rolls a 4. You are now the heavy favorite to win and the traditional bet is to take Odds on the 4 such that you are the heavy favorite to win on both bets (recall there is no house edge on the Odds bet). I have stated before, if INSTEAD of being naked on the 4, you make a $11 Buy bet on the 4 so you are Hedged. If a 7 shows up, you win $20 but lose $11 for a net $9 gain. If the 4 shows up, you win $20.90 (1.90 x $11) for a $0.90 pick up such that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to lose money.

    However, you have $9 in Hedge Equity and suppose you placed an Iron Cross bet for $7 ($2 Place bet each on 6 & 8, $2 Buy bet on 5, and $1 on Field Bet) - you see how that $9 Hedge Equity makes money from the Iron across on the next roll so long as it is not a 7. So if the next rolls are not a “4” or “7”, that Iron Cross bet continues to make money aka creating Dividends from the $9 Hedge Equity capital base.

    When I get some free time, I will show how to use Hedge Equity to further increase your profits from Aruze Bubble Craps. We are calling this the Daisy Chain method (and I had explained it before except I wasn’t using an Iron Cross bet as an overlay). People like onautopilot is clueless to these hedging method aka hedge equity, overlays, etc.

    In summary, a lot of haters (Duh-Mango, TD, onautopilot, etc) were hoping that I would be selling my system on non-random rolls on Aruze Bubble Craps. I am sorry to disappoint them. I will continue to provide FREE information (along with photos) and show people how to make $$$$ from Aruze Bubble Craps. Yes, consistent non-random rolls are possible in this game and the FSP is amazing.

    Not everyone will gain the skill to generate non-random rolls, but if you can develop this skill, make your money and keep laughing at people like Duh-Mango who continues to be butthurt.
     
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  2. DeMango, May 17, 2018

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    Harley, good to see you post buddy! Tell us when the formula for making $500 per hour, on this machine happens! A Bi-Assed machine would be nice! Stay in touch!
     
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  3. von duck, May 20, 2018

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    This is NOT Harley, it's "OBVIOUS-MAN" DUH! :)
     
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  4. Twelve4s, May 20, 2018

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    Well said Harley. Duh.
     
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    I'm dead right about Crispcem, aren't I? DUH! :cool:
     
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  6. yacraps, May 20, 2018

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    So what do you do when you lose the 20...the 4/10 returns the most on that hedge..and even at that you than have to win 3 times to get past even 2 wins you are still a loser..the rest of the box numbers win less witch would require more wins to get even the deeper the hole you dig the harder to get out of
     
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    Still the sock puppet shit. Some habits die hard, hah Harley?

    When’s the next ACA?
     
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    A simple YES would have been sufficient. :D Crisp4s
     
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    first they have to find a craps table someone is willing to let them use.
     
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  10. TDVegas, May 20, 2018

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    Comp points on bubble craps are NO where close to slot point awards. 1/12th. Points are almost worthless. Slot points are typically $1 bet....1 point. Bubble points are $12 wagered....1 point and I assume the software calculates dollars so you can't "cheat" with hedges.
    Doubt it. Your betting action would have to be HUMONGOUS to get $900 in free slot play off the bubble. Based on your previous statements of bets...no way are you "making it up" on slot rewards.
    $100 in FSP would typically take $100,000 in betting action on REGULAR slots. Even if you were getting 10x points, you would still need $10,000 in action. 10x points is a maybe once a week deal offered by casinos. Comp points on bubble craps are no where close to slots. I've been to Reno and the numbers are similar Las Vegas on Aruze.
    Brainless. If you have found a machine with non random rolls...then you don't need to play for ANY free slot play. Simply build a betting strategy to take advantage of the non random machine.
    You've posted like 2 photos in 5 months. Just playing random I probably do that 6,7,8 deal once a month...or more.
    Nonsense. OAP never said he could do a test on your 30-40-100 rolls to determine random or bias. The sample is way too small. He would never say that.
    Hedges just dilute winning bets and raise the house edge.
    What about the times a 7-11 is rolled and you lose that bet? Then, if a number is established...you are diluting the advantage of the DP/DC by hedging with a place bet. Hedge is your friend? Bullshitto.
    More bullshit. No one ever implored you to sell anything.

    This sounds like more Harley bullshit "pay it forward"....."I want to help those less fortunate".

    Look in the mirror, dude. Help yourself. Quit gambling.
     
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  11. Mssthis1, May 21, 2018

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    I figured out bubble control today. The picture is really bad because I didn't want the Indians to scalp me but it's 12 out of 15 6/7/8 and 10 out of 15 6 or 8.

    The way I accomplished this was the Luke Skywalker strategy. I decided to use the earth force to my advantage and closed my eyes while shooting. I pushed the button when the "voices in my head" told me too.[​IMG]
     
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  12. eDiceGuy, May 21, 2018

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    After reading your post I was intrigued by the Iron Cross. I had heard about it but never thought much of it as it involved the Field bet. My dudley-do-right past strictly forbade this bet, and I still see recommendations to avoid the Field in web sites like Wizard of Odds and CrapsPit.org. Now that I play the bubble I have taken an attitude that all bets are on the table.

    With that said I tried the Iron Cross yesterday at Twin Arrows casino (Flagstaff, AZ) on the Interblock bubble. This is a $1 minimum machine, and being conservative a changed the betting amounts to match the minimum. I also incorporated my Naturals betting strategy on come-out rolls since the IB machine does not require a pass line bet.

    Here is the strategy I used:
    No hard-way bets
    On come-out roll: $1 LAY bet across, $1 E/C (Horn bet minimum is $4).​
    If Natural is rolled (7/11 Do, 2/3/12 Don’t) then press as follows:
    If 7 then $1 bet on 7 (Big Red), Press Big Red on all repeating 7s until max bet is reached ($35) or loss.
    If 2/3/11/12 then Press E/C. If bet repeats then Press by moving to Horn. Continue pressing Horn until Max or loss.​
    If a point is established then bet Iron Cross as follows:
    Take down remaining Lay bets.
    Bet $1 Buy on 5, $1 Place on 6/8, $1 on Field.
    Press the 5/6/8 every other win. Buy the 4/9/10 on every second win, then Press the buy bet after each win.​

    I played 3, 90 minute sessions, buying in for $60 each. At the end of the session I would cash out, hit the bathroom, grab a fresh cup of coffee then return to the machine. I would choose a different chair, to make me think I was playing a different casino.

    Results:
    Session 1 Lost $19
    Session 2 Won $60
    Session 3 Won $5​
    Notes:
    Session 1: I caught a 23 roll at the beginning but things slowed down towards session end.
    Session 2: Halfway through I was ahead so increased betting to $2 Buy 5, 2$ Place 6/8. Won most of the $60 on a 23 roll.
    Session 3: Down $30, made it back after keeping Lay bets active and adding Come Bet to combat short rolls. Won 4 PSOs in a row.​

    Conclusions:

    I like the Iron Cross. I think betting $2 produces better profits when 5/6/8 are rolled. I also like winning on the outside numbers and 2/3/12 after the point is made. Many times I would grit my teeth when these numbers are rolled when I am betting an inside 6/8 strategy
     
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    I posted a photo so you can understand, or at least help understand what a DP / DC bettor wants when using the Daisy Chain method.

    The photo is in the first post of this thread:
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/daisy-chain-method-for-dp-dc-in-aruze-bubble-craps.37656/

    There are at least two parts to the answer:
    - you have dice control and target values that are 6 or less (e.g. 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6) and avoid blue 7’s

    - in Aruze Bubble Craps, a 7 comes in two flavors: Blue (on the Come out roll) or Red (after a point has been made).

    The Daisy Chain method wants Red 7’s but avoid Blue 7’s. Red 7’s by construction are partially or fully hedged via Hedge Equity.

    It comes down to the ability of the Dice Controller and condition of the machine. Sometimes, I am naked (as in unhedged) with the DP bet and other times I hedge with a Lay Bet on the 10.

    In the photo, you will see in those 15 rolls:
    - No Blue 7’s
    - Only Red 7’s
    - No 9’s
    - No 10’s
    - No 11’s
    - No 12’s
    - 10 of those 15 rolls are 6 or less (for those who understand math, I have 2/3 of my rolls vs expectations of 15/36 in 15 rolls, which anyone can validate using a bonominal calculator).

    Why?? Because I was targeting 2 thru 6 and a couple of times I got an “8”. And I made money on those 4 “3’s” (acey-deucy) which helped absorb losing rolls.

    This might be a bit difficult for most people, but you can always cash in the Hedge Equity. This helps explain some assumptions you are making that does not apply when a Dice Controller is at the Aruze Bubble Craps when the machine is in the right condition.
     
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    btw, I am the person years ago that posted its only a matter of time before someone claims they can control dice in a bubble.

    everyone has an angle. yet the casinos laugh all the way to the bank.
     
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  15. James Hall, May 21, 2018

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    Yep with your money and yu just keep playing
    doing what you always do
     
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    I am doing very well in Aruze Craps. My dice control techniques in Aruze have continue to evolve. My gifts from the casinos in the form of free slot play have been endless.

    I am so looking for to X-mas so I can buy gifts for myself, friends, and family after the immense generosity by my casinos. When you play with a 2%+ edge on Bubble Craps, it’s such a wonderful feeling.
     
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  17. donald, May 21, 2018

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    Sometime back a guy named Scoblete wrote a book how Dice Controllers are winning millions from the Casinos. Keep winning and looking forward to a book on winning millions from Aruze Craps by dice control techniques.
     
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