Where do I start?

Discussion in 'Beginner Zone' started by ZeusyZeus, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. HornHiYo, Apr 23, 2017

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    "get this into your head ... once and for all?"
    "do YOU understand...?
    "Make no mistake"
    "and not to be questioned, insulted or put down because if it.."


    My my my! Just because the Short Bus driver lets you toot the horn on the bus once in awhile doesn't make you the Supreme DICKtater over all chunkers and so-called-DIs.
    Now If you would just remember to use the keyword "Ass-Hole!" It might get you an honorary short term appointment to King Shit of turd hill on the gray board .... maybe.
     
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  2. KokomoJoe4, Apr 23, 2017

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    The thing is, we all want to win money playing the game. Short of stealing or cheating, how we get the money is irrelevant.

    I can guarantee you that the most anti-DI player on the face of the earth would be whooping up a storm if sitting on a lot of numbers rolled for a long time by a guy setting, handling and tossing in a repetitive manner. He would love the guy to death for as long as shoot continued, and might afterwards even "allow for the possibility of" DI.

    Then, maybe after a bunch of shitty shoots by other "DI-appearing types", he would revert back to his original thoughts on the matter.

    Easy come, easy go.
     
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  3. HornHiYo, Apr 23, 2017

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    I absolutely ageee with that and also:
    I can guarantee you that the most anti-DI player on the face of the earth would be whooping up a storm if sitting on a lot of numbers rolled for a long time by any player in any manner. He would love the player to death for as long as shoot continued, and might afterwards even give an "atta boy" and a toke and continue looking for that next long roll.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Apr 23, 2017

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    Absolutely. I've been on long rolls on the bubble. People clapping, happy, giving me an approving nod. It's nice but I don't "need" or "require" others to acknowledge this as some event that only I'm capable of doing. Some of these short bussers have some craving or need for affirmation of their "talent." For flunks sake, you had a good roll...wonderful. People are happy. Stop looking for more.
     
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  5. tabletop123, Apr 23, 2017

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    That's correct! I just want to win! Don't care if you're a Di or Chucker.......Where's the money?

    What these guys fail to reveal is that Di'ng is very hard to do consistently! It's one of the hardest things that I have EVER been involved in! VERY FRUSTRATING, INDEED!

    Now, I cannot get over 10 rolls of the dice! Tossing the dice like PURE SHIT these days! The guru's would say: "You need to take a Class". Or some other bullshit like "You ain't doing it correctly"!

    Ya think after 8 stinking years that I don't know what I am doing? Lol. As I have always said.......It's gonna be close to random for most skilled tossers, & I think the ONLY "Ones" that will consistently fall outside of three standard deviations, CONSISTENTLY are the "Outliers"!

    Now,,i realize there are not many on this forum that would care to waste their time watching a dice tossing video, but to PROVE my point......Google: " Full Press Craps"!

    Depicted is a guy with the worst looking tosses imaginable yet he gets outstanding results. Granted, we have no idea what kind of results that he gets in the Casinos, but the Guy gets some FANTASTIC results during practice!

    He is a PRIME EXAMPLE of what I'd call an Outlier! The guy actually thinks he is influencing the dice, & TRUST & BELIEVE.....He is not!

    Just as I described the Asian lady that plays at Cherokee ( Another Outlier), Full Press is an Outlier that can be viewed on Video!

    Let's face it.......There ARE those that inadvertently defy odds, & there's just no darn explanation! LUCKY FUCKERS! Lol
     
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  6. HornHiYo, Apr 23, 2017

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    Some players just refuse to give up the microphone and step out of the limelight! They only want to take credit for what they and the table won off their good hand. I have yet to see one report about how they and the table took a bath betting on a dice fiddlers bad hands.
     
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  7. HornHiYo, Apr 23, 2017

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    I've watched some of the videos and to me they support the idea that a player does not need to throw mirror image dice to have long hands. I think players that bet only on self proclaimed experts may be missing out on many Patricia Demauro style hands. Why would a player wait around for the Smart Experts when they run like hell with a small profit after a few rolls. Any player can roll 8 or more rolls at anytime.

    I just don't see the the point in waiting around for a dice fiddling Smart Player that may throw a point, seven out for a few hands and then leave. What does that gain any other player?
     
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  8. tabletop123, Apr 23, 2017

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    BINGO! I have said all along that tossing dice with perfect pitch control means nothing! It looks good in the air but that's about it! I try to flee as soon As i get a decent profit, because I KNOW that any influence is slight, & very fleeting!

    The math of the game is painstakingly real, & 1:6 is pretty darn accurate over the long run!

    You can make money on short 4-7 roll hands! Try to "hit a lick", & quit!
     
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  9. HornHiYo, Apr 23, 2017

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    That is for sure and even on shorter roll hands. Last week on the come out roll I saw a guy put a black chip on midnight and won.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Apr 23, 2017

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    And ya know what??

    You're right.

    As much as some don't want to admit it...those damn numbers work. Deviating far off 1:6 is a struggle. I've done it for 36 rolls. 7+. I've even done it for 72 rolls. 9.

    Keep going, keep collating...and that 1:6 starts getting closer and closer.
     
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  11. Settingcanthurt, Apr 24, 2017

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    You mean I finally did it?? I'm humbled LOL!!!
     
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  12. Onautopilot, Apr 24, 2017

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    Your short, seven word sentence pretty well summed up the reality of man's relationship with his natural environment!

    A no frills actuality!

    Yes....I appreciated it! :)
     
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  13. Settingcanthurt, Apr 24, 2017

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    TDB not wanting to pile on here but your example using Opinions vs. Physics to compare to each other just misses the target.
    The point made about censorship is excellent but this censorship you are refering to is a two edged knife. You are choosing to censor those who choose ti disway DI on this board right??
    All that needs to be done is show & do as in the BoHunk challenge which all you DI'ers POO pooed.
     
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  14. Settingcanthurt, Apr 24, 2017

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    My favorite part of AZ for some reason.
     
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    As do I.... get it??? DI??? Setting cant what????? Hurt???
    Hell no.
    GO FOR IT!!!!!
     
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  16. Settingcanthurt, Apr 24, 2017

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    OAP sorry to be the one telling you but... these aint real live critters............:confused::p:D
     
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  17. Settingcanthurt, Apr 24, 2017

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    TT does not need you telling him how to understand this board.
    He owns miles of real respect here. Miles.............
     
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  18. Settingcanthurt, Apr 24, 2017

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    Kinda watered down TT. Tell him how ya really feel.
     
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    You and I would both be glad to say YEA HE DID IT,,... talking about some DI,ers 47+ roll we witnessed and pressed into large chip stacks. If we rode the chip express three more times in the next say 5 sessions there would be a new legend here to write about.

    Writing without the experience or history is called fiction no matter what subject.
     
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  20. Settingcanthurt, Apr 24, 2017

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    Oh that's good, very good.
     
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