Who are the controlled shooters on this board?

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  1. KokomoJoe4, Oct 5, 2019

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    Anthony,

    Do you consider yourself an on-axis shooter? Do you shoot out of the 3V?

    If so, there are some things you should see about the perception of "on-axis" shooting,
     
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  2. Anthony Cornine, Oct 5, 2019

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    We'll, Sir, snacks is my goal. My SRR is 6.7 s. I understand it needs to be better before leaving the hardest set for the 3V.. Is that right? Appreciate your post. A
     
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  3. Anthony Cornine, Oct 5, 2019

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    Whoops-- that's my goal.
     
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  4. Anthony Cornine, Oct 5, 2019

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    Now, Kokomo, with my glasses on---yes I use the hardest set now. What do I need to know? When do I go to the 3V?
     
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  5. Anthony Cornine, Oct 5, 2019

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    Darn---hardWAY.. set. I think my tablet is trying to help me by changing words.
     
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  6. Mssthis1, Oct 5, 2019

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    With a SRR of 6.7 you need to forget about finding other shooters and find a place with 10X odds that will let you reserve a table.

    A lone pass line bet backed with 10x odds will on average make 100K for every million dollars of resolved bets if your SRR is 6.7. The odds are the key since you will toss fewer naturals.

    If you don't like the pass line big place bets on the 6/8 are a good option also.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Oct 5, 2019

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    How many rolls are establishing this number?
     
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  8. DeMango, Oct 5, 2019

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    All the more reason to employ BoneTracker! But who am I? Just a voice crying out in the wilderness.
     
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  9. twodicebilly, Oct 5, 2019

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    Anthony

    You dont decide to change sets based on your SRR, you make a change
    based on what your results are telling you.

    YOU can have an SRR of 5 and make money or 8 and lose money depending
    on how your betting. I you make $100 on your roll then lose $500 on everyone else
    before you get the dice back ???? well you can see the point there.

    If your setting the hardway set, you have 2,3,4,5 on each die in the tossing plane
    and it is helpful to watch what percentage of the time you finish with 2,3,4,5 on each
    die. That tells what percentage of your rolls are finishing in that set or how many times
    you have a split axis finish with one die finding with the 2,3,4,5 on one die and a 1 or 6 on the other.

    Knowing how your dice are finishing sets the basis for a meaningful set change.

    TDB
     
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  10. TDVegas, Oct 5, 2019

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    There should never be a question of "how you are betting" with an 8 SRR.

    If you possess a long term 8 SRR and you're telling me you are losing money....you simply don't know what to bet or, frankly, what the hell you're doing. Period.

    A SRR of ~8....Anybody who had that kind of influence would have a HUGE advantage over the house. A simple $10 pass with double odds, $200 starting bankroll and 100-bet sessions. 1000 total sessions, expected 895 sessions came out ahead, with a mean result of $522. Over half the sessions won $500 or more.

    Don't over complicate it with set changes, adjustments, dice planes, betting different numbers or anything else. Pass line and 2x odds....and later with a Kelly progression with higher odds 4x, 5x....10x = millionaire gambler.

    The simulations PROVE this out. No guesswork. No maybes. No "not hitting the numbers you bet on"....etc.

    I suspect a simple iron cross would do the trick as well.

    The ONLY caveat is you must possess a long term 8 SRR average.
     
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  11. twodicebilly, Oct 6, 2019

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    TDV

    that is a fact, on tables where my recorded results are at higher levels than other
    tables I bet more. That is the one reason I took a couple of years to record my results
    on different tables and stick to the ones I have best results on....I am heading for your
    area next week, of all the tables I could play on I have already selected 4 that I Will
    play on. If I do happen to end up some where else with one of the guys I meet there, I will
    be betting much less on those tables to start with.

    TDV your catching on

    TDB
     
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  12. KokomoJoe4, Oct 6, 2019

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    If you have been performing well out of hardways, I would make no changes.

    BTW, I am a DI skeptic, not a DI, and do not hold it against you that you believe.
     
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  13. Dave G Ct, Oct 6, 2019

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    TDV making great sense.Telling it like it should be!
     
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  14. Anthony Cornine, Oct 6, 2019

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    We'll, TD, only 3000. Yes, I the know that is not enough, right? Have done 36-roll sets with no 7s though. What do you think?
     
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  15. Anthony Cornine, Oct 6, 2019

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    Thanks. Will post results later, which I hope are better by Jan. 20.. That will be my one-year of practice mark. I'm in this it for the long haul. I try to practice two hours per day. Change dice every 2,000 rolls.
     
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  16. Anthony Cornine, Oct 6, 2019

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    Good post, TDB. I should stay with the hard way set until the 6s and 1s stop coming up as much as they do. You gave me so much to think about. Thanks.
     
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  17. KokomoJoe4, Oct 7, 2019

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    This is PROOF that your dice are going off axis. Results containing a TOP [1] or [6] can NOT be in the hardways arrangement.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Oct 7, 2019

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    3000 rolls and getting a 6.7 SRR?

    You are WELL above the probability scale. Pretty epic as a matter of fact.

    If I recall, based on 5,000 rolls....there were only 2 out of 1,000 simulations that got it as high as 6.5 SRR over that many rolls.

    If you can replicate that over the next 3,000....a betting model can be established to make mucho dinero.

    At 10,000 rolls....the best any of the simulations could get was 6.2 SRR. For this reason, I don’t think it’s humanly possible to get a 7 SRR at 10K or more rolls

    But...keep going.
     
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    I have a theory.
    if you can obtain an SRR of your penis size in inches plus 3, you will be a long term winner at the craps table, maybe not so much with the ladies.
    on the other hand, if you have a penis 3 inches longer than the number of you SRR(converting the number to inches). you may not win so much at the tables but you might be lucky at love
     
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    so doing the math, I figure I should own 4 casinos and always be smiling
     
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