WHY I NEVER PLAY THE COME IN CRAPS

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  1. Edward-ky, Aug 1, 2016

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    No won't open. It can't be that difficult to upload a pic. Even TDV can upload a pic so u know it has to be super easy to do.
     
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  2. James Hall, Aug 1, 2016

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    Well If TDV can do it then there is no doubt OAP can
     
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  3. Edward-ky, Aug 1, 2016

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    So why can't you.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Aug 1, 2016

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    Maybe I'm only looking at it from my perspective. My perspective is if I could beat this game...I make no excuses. I would be in the casino as much as humanly possible gathering in the chips. I would worry about the fun things I'm going to do with all the money a little later.

    That's not to suggest not to have fun while you are touring the country employing your advantage play. By all means, stay in the best hotels, eat the best meals...do some sightseeing, etc.

    If the argument is "I don't need money, I'm not that interested in playing too often" etc.....then why the need or desire for constant practice? Why the need or investment for a home table or rig? Why spend time in a craps forum? Why is so much time being spent honing the skills if the utilization of play is...once a month? To me, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

    If it's just fun, a side hobby...it seems one would not go thru all these motions of attending classes, having tables in their living rooms, teaching, etc....The bottom line is that under the terms of advantage player, you are NOT playing for fun. You are playing to win money. Rick has said it many times..."we are not playing for fun"...I agree.

    A pro golfer plays golf year round
    A pro tennis player plays tennis year round
    A pro fisherman travels and enters tournaments year round
    A pro blackjack player makes it his job

    why is a pro craps player (advantage player) the ONLY guys I know who see this game as a hobby and enjoyment and nothing more?
     
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    A weasel dodge.
     
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    This is good writing?
     
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  7. Edward-ky, Aug 1, 2016

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    2cdv23a.jpg I think I found it james
     
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  8. tabletop123, Aug 1, 2016

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    Okay, TableTop will add his two cents! What you do at home in practice means absolutely nothing! Battling in the Casinos with your money on the table & doing well is what seperates the men from the boys! What i really dont understand is....... WHY so much at-home practice? Some of these guys have been practicing Dice Influencing for almost 10 years! If you have not developed a good toss/s in over 5 years of play/practice...... you are probably wasting your time! After almost 9 years of practice, & "in the heat of battle" sessions, i practice MAYBE for 10 minutes, once a week! My toss is permanently ingrained. It will NOT get any better. Its as good as it will ever be, & to continue with rigorous practice sessions is futile! Unlike most...... I dont lose ANYTHING by NOT practicing, & i actually toss better when NOT practicing, & just showing up at a Casino! When you practice something for so long & you develop a high skill level, after so long it becomes Mental! Case in point: i RARELY, EVER play pool anymore, but after competing for so many years, it'd take me roughly 1 month to be "road ready" again! Now, with the Di'ng thing, i lose some, & i win some, but NOTHING has a bearing on the MECHANICS of my toss! Sure, you have a few funky days wherein your mechanics are a littke suspect but if you are TRULY deft at tossing the dice, your mechanics are still "sufficient" on your not-so-good days! The problem with Dice Influencing is that a Sound mechanical toss does NOT guarantee favorable resul ts! All this bullshit about having a second pair of eyes to catch a flaw/s in your toss is......... A crock shit! The gifted tosser corrects his/her own flaw, because they are highly skilled at it, & have been doing it for so long! Now, i am only speaking of the mechanics of a good toss, & NOT favorable outcomes from a deft toss! A skilled tosser can only toss dice with Perfect pitch control, & pin point accuracy! So, those of you that just enjoy tossing dice....... No problem! Those of you that have 5,6, or more experience with Dice Influencing......... You need Not Practice so much because your mechanics SHOULD be permanently ingrained! I know that after almost 9 years, it doesnt matter if i practice or not! My mechanics are permanently ingrained, & no amounts of non practice can take that away! One 15 minute practice session, once every two weeks, & i am Casino ready! Are there any guarantees? I think you already know the answer! Lol All of the "Yes i can", no you cant stuff is a complete waste of time! For those of you that CAN take the Casino's money with any regularity........ Just go do! Time is money, & posting on this forum is taking away from your profits in the Casinos! This advice applies to Old TableTop as well!
     
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  9. James Hall, Aug 1, 2016

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    Edward ky
    nope wrong one
    but then you knew that
     
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  10. Edward-ky, Aug 1, 2016

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    I wouldn't know. My mistake I thought you said u may have posted it in that thread. My mistake.
     
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  11. Edward-ky, Aug 1, 2016

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  12. betwthelines, Aug 1, 2016

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    it is within your power or so you say to put the naysayers' shit right out in the street...but you refuse to do it...more than likely because you can't do it...
    everyone on this board EXCEPT YOU understands that the only true test is under live, casino conditions...money talks, bullshit walks...never mind the fact that tdv asked you first...of course you then make a bullshit excuse counter invite just so you can make up a bullshit excuse just like your other bullshit excuses...a garage in mesa doesnt cut it...even your fellow DIers allow that practice is good but adjusments necessary once you hit the casino rail...your invitation is a red herring...
    BINGO! YOU GOT IT! you cannot manifest the "skill" you say you can...or at least are unwilling to try under real casino conditions with known, non-hearsay, non-anecdotal individuals as witnesses...
    true dat
    also true
    more bullshit made up in your own head...more attribution to your opponents that isn't there..no one is saying it is impossible...the old adage "anything is possible" is largely true...but more than that physics allows for DI or whatever is this "skill" you claim to have...we still don't know what you call it...IT IS POSSIBLE...but that's not the question: the question is is it being done?...is it being manifested on real casino craps tables?

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    I can't so nobody can is an excuse for failure the naysayers feel compelled to trot out to save face[/QUOTE]
    the naysayers need no excuse nor do they offer any...they are not the ones making extraordinary claims...just more made up bullshit in your own mind, reading shit into posts that is not there...
    i know, i know and you're right on at least 2 out of 3 but then we are all TROLLS on here...james hall is most definitely not a sock puppet...james hall is not a stupid person...he might even be a very smart one but i can't feature anybody with a style like his being able to camouflage it in another "sock"...there would be too many give-aways.

    yes, i know that this conversation i am having is all slightly out of character for me but i am feeling particularly feisty these last couple days...plus i find james hall's over-the-top braggadocio rather funny if obvious and his deeply felt need for affirmation a curious draw...

    i truly would not be averse to sitting down with him and solving the world's problems...weird eh?

    tom p

    "we are all trolls on here...trolling for a reader at the minimum, trolling for advice, trolling for a reaction, preferably a response or reply ,trolling for opinions or'thoughts, trolling for affirmation, trolling for a 'like'. trolling for any number of things...and, yes, some are trolling for business, trolling for dollars" --tom p, 2015
     
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  13. tabletop123, Aug 1, 2016

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    Purest form of bullshit is: My table matches or comes close to the Casino tables that i play on...............NEVER! Nor will you match the same kind of Dice the Casino uses! Once you get to the Casino everything changes & you have to adjust & make changes from what you do at home! Yes, i believe in VERY SLIGHT munipulation of dice Outcomes, but P-L-E-A-S-E, lets keep things in their proper perspective! Let's discuss what happens when the talented tosser gets a empty table & cannot win after 20-50 tosses! What these heroes wont discuss is that after so many rolls of the dice(normally between 20-50 rolls), your Ass is Grass! LET'S DISCUSS THAT! If Dice Influencing is so powerful, & constant, why do Di'S flee to the Cashier's cage after a good hand? A skill is a skill, right? I love trying to influence the rolls, & do a darn good job of it, but let's NOT embellish the truth! Let's take it down a notch or three huh?
     
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  14. HornHiYo, Aug 1, 2016

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    I know you're full of yourself and can't hear beyond your ears or see beyond your brown nose.
     
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  15. TDVegas, Aug 1, 2016

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    You're not getting any arguments from me. I may disagree with some of the DI's here..but I can respect the fact that they put their money where their mouth is..they actually play in casinos and not just at home on a practice table.

    I can hit a golf ball on the driving range until I'm blue. It's not until I'm on an actual course With trees, hazards, deep grass, water, undulating greens...that I find out what I can actually do.
     
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  16. Edward-ky, Aug 1, 2016

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    Still waiting on that picture James. But we both know that won't happen since you are completely full of shit.
     
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  17. HornHiYo, Aug 1, 2016

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    Yeah yeah yeah. We know you actually tried to be your best, but even you know that as much as you brag, you do fall short. So be sure to cover your ass and blame your typos on haste and lack of time to check your own keyboard work. That's pretty much how you approach craps posts, all hot air and no bother to back it up.
     
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  18. Onautopilot, Aug 1, 2016

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    Had the same experience, and I am glad you are the one engaging him now instead of me, you do a far better job of it than I did, and it gives me something intelligent to read! :)
     
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  19. TDVegas, Aug 1, 2016

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    Oh..and James, I'll be at Caesars Palace tonight if you and Parker want to stop by. I can meet you from 6pm and onward. Any table.

    You said a Diamond Card, right?

    Pics to follow.
     
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  20. Onautopilot, Aug 1, 2016

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    No, not weird at all, in person, most people seem to be a bit more in tune with reality than they sometimes are on public forums. I have experienced that before, and met a few, and ended up coming away with a new appreciation of the person. Maybe not a friendship thing, but a different perspective at least.

    As for all of us being TROLLS, maybe in the broadest sense, but in strict definition, what ever that is, they are a breed of their own. :)
     
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