The only sidebets I really play are 8 and 9. I believe they have the highest probability of being rolled next to a 7. Every now and then, I’ll bet on the hard numbers of the point. So if the point is 6… I’ll bet on the hard six the entire time because there is a 1 and 3 chance that the next 6 rolled will be the hard 6. (combos of 5,1 4,2 and 3,3).

I am new to gambling and I’ve never played craps before and I was wondering what a side bet was? I’ve only seen the craps table and have watched people play but I’ve never had the courage to actually play it myself.

I am very random with my side bets, but then again so are the dice.  I just like to throw out a little extra to raise my odds of winning something.  This is not a science, but it sure is fun.

The one that I have been playing recently is the Four Rolls no Seven side bet. It’s pretty easy to figure this one out. All you have to do is roll four times in a row by avoiding a 7.

onetime77 there is a 1 in 5 chance of rolling a hard 6 there are 36 possible outcomes and there are 5 ways to make a six 5-1,4-2,3-3,2-4,1-5 not 3 ways each dice has its own chance of rolling that number ie 6x6 is 36 you should always base your probablity on 36 possible combos i saw a chart in a book once that makes it very easy to remember if i find it again i will post it for you but here was the basics of it

Number     Possible ways to roll
2           1 (1-1)
3           2 (2-1,1-2)
4           3 (3-1,2-2,1-3)
5           4(4-1,3-2,2-3,1-4)
6           5(5-1,4-2,3-3,2-4,1-5)
7           6(6-1,5-2,4-3,3-4,2-5,1-6)
8           5(6-2,5-3,4-4,3-5,2-6)
9           4(6-3,5-4,4-5,3-6)
10           3(6-4,5-5,4-6)
11           2(6-5,5-6)
12           1(6-6)

hope this helps some

onetime77 - 11 January 2009 11:58 AM

The only sidebets I really play are 8 and 9. I believe they have the highest probability of being rolled next to a 7. Every now and then, I’ll bet on the hard numbers of the point. So if the point is 6… I’ll bet on the hard six the entire time because there is a 1 and 3 chance that the next 6 rolled will be the hard 6. (combos of 5,1 4,2 and 3,3).

Actually, it is the six and eight that are the most likely numbers behind the seven.

You are mistaken about the hard six, because 5,1 and 4,2 can occur two ways, whereas 3,3 can only occur one way, so only one of five sixes is expected to be “hard”. Also, of course, the hardways lose on a seven, as well. So:

3,3 win
4,2 2,4 5,1 1,5 1,6 6,1 2,5 5,2 3,4 4,3 all lose

So, ten ways to lose, one to win. The house pays 9 for a win, so, on average, you expect to lose one unit ten times and win nine units once. a loss of one unit per eleven bets, or a 9.09% house advantage. Compare that to 1.4% on the pass line. On the other hand, you can make hardway bets for a dollar at many tables and, because of the 9:1 payoff, it only takes one extra win out of 99 bets to come out ahead (barely). One way that I “toke” the dealers is to make a “two-way” hardway bet, $1 for myself and $1 for the dealers. If you win that bet, the dealers get $10 and it never hurts to have the dealers like you. > they will appreciate it even if the bet loses.

Cheers,
Alan Shank

Thanks Shank! Awesome reply!

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If the total number of series for a given number of digits is plotted against the number of digits we get an interesting graph.

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Exzekiel - 20 September 2010 05:27 AM

You can also try the Midway Bet where it pays out if the shooter throws a six, seven or eight on their next roll. Winning the bet usually pays even money, unless a hard six or hard eight (one in which the shooter rolls a pair of threes or fours, respectively) is rolled, in which case the bet pays 2-1. The Midway Bet has a house edge of about 5.5%.

In fact, this bet is the mirror image of the Field bet without a triple payoff - exactly the same HA, standard deviation and skew.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

Place bet the 6 and 8 everyone.

The easiest number to role in craps is the 7. Next come the 6 and 8. If you ever want to beat the odds always place bet the 6 and 8.
I don,t usually bet on the pass line. All books on craps tell you to do so. Why not? If the point becomes a 5 or 9 or 4 and 10 the law of mathematics is against you in the long run. Remember with odds on these numbers you can wait a long time before they hit. The way to win is to have as little money at risk. The money that you place on the table is always lost unles you take them down. If you did that are you really gambling?

Didally - 12 April 2011 08:03 PM

The easiest number to role in craps is the 7. Next come the 6 and 8. If you ever want to beat the odds always place bet the 6 and 8.
I don,t usually bet on the pass line. All books on craps tell you to do so. Why not? If the point becomes a 5 or 9 or 4 and 10 the law of mathematics is against you in the long run.

Of course, the same is true if the point is 6 or 8, just to a lesser degree. Of course, this is the sad old story of comparing the post-point segment of a line bet with a place bet, ignoring the comeout roll, where the player has an 8:4 advantage.

Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

goatcabin - 12 April 2011 09:07 PM

Didally - 12 April 2011 08:03 PM

The easiest number to role in craps is the 7. Next come the 6 and 8. If you ever want to beat the odds always place bet the 6 and 8.
I don,t usually bet on the pass line. All books on craps tell you to do so. Why not? If the point becomes a 5 or 9 or 4 and 10 the law of mathematics is against you in the long run.

Of course, the same is true if the point is 6 or 8, just to a lesser degree. Of course, this is the sad old story of comparing the post-point segment of a line bet with a place bet, ignoring the comeout roll, where the player has an 8:4 advantage.

Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

Should a person consider trying to make most of their profit on the come out roll if possible

tercol58 - 13 April 2011 01:56 AM

Should a person consider trying to make most of their profit on the come out roll if possible

I don’t think so, because on the comeout roll you only have the flat bet. My strategy is to maximize the proportion of my money on the odds bets. However, to ignore the comeout segment of the line bets and compare the point segment directly to place bets is just plain ignorant.

Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

goatcabin - 13 April 2011 09:35 AM

tercol58 - 13 April 2011 01:56 AM

Should a person consider trying to make most of their profit on the come out roll if possible

I don’t think so, because on the comeout roll you only have the flat bet. My strategy is to maximize the proportion of my money on the odds bets. However, to ignore the comeout segment of the line bets and compare the point segment directly to place bets is just plain ignorant.

Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

My last two craps sessions were not winning sessions because I did not manage my winnings and quit when I was well ahead a problem I need much help with. I did however have some success on the come out roll by putting down my flat bet and hedging with a craps bet if the craps hit I made it a 3way I made a little off of it and feel it saved me on the come out a lot my on stupidity in getting greedy and staying too long made me a loser. My question is do you think this crap bet is worth while or was my experience just a fluke?

Didally - 12 April 2011 08:03 PM

The easiest number to role in craps is the 7. Next come the 6 and 8. If you ever want to beat the odds always place bet the 6 and 8.I don,t usually bet on the pass line. All books on craps tell you to do so. Why not? If the point becomes a 5 or 9 or 4 and 10 the law of mathematics is against you in the long run. Remember with odds on these numbers you can wait a long time before they hit. The way to win is to have as little money at risk. The money that you place on the table is always lost unles you take them down. If you did that are you really gambling?[/quote]

Didally - All I can say is WOW !!!!!

You are correct - the 7 is the most prevelant of the numbers that the dice can total, followed by the 6 and 8, then the 5 and 9, then the 4 and 10, then the 3 and 11 and finally the 2 and 12. This is based upon random rolling in the long run.

By setting the dice and attempting to deliver them to the back wall without too much chaos and / or detrimental influence of the pyramids one attempts to alter the above odds of the game. We are trying to make that 4 or 10, or that 5 or 9 appear more frequent than random if needed.

In order to win with little money at risk as your post states - the only way that I see it is to bet the props - the 1 roll 15 or 30 to odds bets.

Otherwise, you need to spread bets - cover numbers - hopefully win on 1 each roll and then lose all to the the dreaded 7 out.

Gambling - I have been playing casino games ( BJ ) since 1988 - the only time that I gamble - is when I play the slot machines !!!!!