tercol58 - 13 April 2011 04:17 PM

goatcabin - 13 April 2011 11:35 AM

tercol58 - 13 April 2011 03:56 AM

Should a person consider trying to make most of their profit on the come out roll if possible

I don’t think so, because on the comeout roll you only have the flat bet. My strategy is to maximize the proportion of my money on the odds bets. However, to ignore the comeout segment of the line bets and compare the point segment directly to place bets is just plain ignorant.

Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

My last two craps sessions were not winning sessions because I did not manage my winnings and quit when I was well ahead a problem I need much help with. I did however have some success on the come out roll by putting down my flat bet and hedging with a craps bet if the craps hit I made it a 3way I made a little off of it and feel it saved me on the come out a lot my on stupidity in getting greedy and staying too long made me a loser. My question is do you think this crap bet is worth while or was my experience just a fluke?

Personally, I will not hedge a PL bet unless I am at 20 or above. I’ll hedge it with a 3 way.

If I was betting 5 or 10 dollars on the PL I would not hedge.

The idea of a hedge is not to make a profit on the hedge bet; it is to recover some of your money on your primary bet.
If you are hedging a 5 or 10 dollar PL bet with a 3 way, I think that is overkill, IMHO.

777

basicstrategy777 - 13 April 2011 06:14 PM

tercol58 - 13 April 2011 04:17 PM

goatcabin - 13 April 2011 11:35 AM

tercol58 - 13 April 2011 03:56 AM

Should a person consider trying to make most of their profit on the come out roll if possible

I don’t think so, because on the comeout roll you only have the flat bet. My strategy is to maximize the proportion of my money on the odds bets. However, to ignore the comeout segment of the line bets and compare the point segment directly to place bets is just plain ignorant.

Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

My last two craps sessions were not winning sessions because I did not manage my winnings and quit when I was well ahead a problem I need much help with. I did however have some success on the come out roll by putting down my flat bet and hedging with a craps bet if the craps hit I made it a 3way I made a little off of it and feel it saved me on the come out a lot my on stupidity in getting greedy and staying too long made me a loser. My question is do you think this crap bet is worth while or was my experience just a fluke?

Personally, I will not hedge a PL bet unless I am at 20 or above. I’ll hedge it with a 3 way.

If I was betting 5 or 10 dollars on the PL I would not hedge.

The idea of a hedge is not to make a profit on the hedge bet; it is to recover some of your money on your primary bet.
If you are hedging a 5 or 10 dollar PL bet with a 3 way, I think that is overkill, IMHO.

777

I hedge it a dollar if I get the craps I make it a 3 way not always but most of the time I do if it hits back to back a nice profit small but nice

I like the idea of manipulating the probabilty of the dice to effect more field bet numbers. how reliable is dice setting to win field bets? and how do you recognize when a true setter is doing it?

noseven - 15 April 2011 12:22 AM

I like the idea of manipulating the probabilty of the dice to effect more field bet numbers. how reliable is dice setting to win field bets? and how do you recognize when a true setter is doing it?

Now were talking DI !!!!!!!!!

I like the idea of manipulating the probabilty of the dice

Yeah, Baby - don’t we all - sometimes it’s easier said than done - sometimes is done easier than said!!!!!!

to effect more field bet numbers To effectively win at the field bet scenario one must bet 2X the field yield on the Place 5, 6 and 8 bets to offset the difference.

how reliable is dice setting to win field bets?

What is needed to offset the odds of 6-1 against any random roll - the learned ones tell us that in the short run - if you can overcome the 1-6 / 6-1 random probability scenario of rolls to 7’s- then you have an advantage - the higher your SSR is the more advantage you achieve.

  and how do you recognize when a true setter is doing it

That I thought was a very simple, elementry response - however, as new techniques are being developed and employed the tried and true methods are while not becoming obsolete are being reconsidered / reworked / re-evaluated ????

  This definitely needs a topic of its own - this is what its’ all about !!!!!!!!!!

noseven - 15 April 2011 12:22 AM

I like the idea of manipulating the probabilty of the dice to effect more field bet numbers. how reliable is dice setting to win field bets? and how do you recognize when a true setter is doing it?

Easiest way to describe the field roll set is
place them so that the three and four are your axle numbers, kissing each ther, with the others all doubles.  Since the six and eight aren’t field you are trying to eliminate them.
This is definitely an advanced set as there are more possible seven outs and you really need to be able to avoid double-pitching and keep them on axis.
I wouldn’t recommend it as a set used for all throws.