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Posted: 07 April 2011 08:43 AM   [ Ignore ]
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One person at the table shooting the dice.

The ol’ timer shows up and puts his last red chip in the come box and it travels to the 8.

The shooter makes his point and leaves the table.

The ol’ timer is alone at the table with no money.

What happens now ?


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Posted: 07 April 2011 09:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Ol’timer?Why cant you just say another guy?Whats the point if hes older not?If the guy placed it in the come box then he should have won no matter if it got moved by the dice.I hope he fought for his winnings.

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Posted: 07 April 2011 09:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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He buys back in or goes home I guess. I did not catch that the guy didnt hit the 8 1st he hit the 7 the chip rolled gotcha

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Posted: 07 April 2011 09:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I made a mistake in my original senario and have re-stated it.

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Posted: 07 April 2011 10:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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basicstrategy777 - 07 April 2011 08:43 AM

One person at the table shooting the dice.

The ol’ timer shows up and puts his last red chip in the come box and it travels to the 8.

The shooter makes his point and leaves the table.

The ol’ timer is alone at the table with no money.

What happens now ?


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Money on the table but nobody with a passline bet.  The dealers will try and encourage the ol’ timer to make a passline bet so that he can roll it off.  Otherwise one of two scenerios occurs.  They could just call the come bet off and give him his money back as there are no rollers, or they could try and be harda$$es and make him wait it out until a new roller comes in.  Most likely they’d give him his bet back if he asked.

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Posted: 07 April 2011 10:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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S C .....you were not to get this so quickly; however, there is a third option.

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Posted: 07 April 2011 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I can think of a couple additional options, although one is merely an extension of another already mentioned.  The catch, I believe, is that the come bet is officially “in action”, it belongs to neither the player nor the house.  Consequently, the house could require the bet to be resolved by roll of the dice, and if the player did not want to, or for some reason could not wait for another shooter, the house could take down his contact information and send him his payoff if he won.  This is the extension of the hardass option previously mentioned, and I doubt the house would enforce it unless the amount were sufficiently large to warrant the effort.

My actual third option would be to finish the roll without a pass line bet.  A dealer or pit suit could do this, or the house could let the player do it.  I think the requirement that the shooter have an interest in the point is a house rule, albeit a universal one AFAIK, to discourage shooters from leaving the table before the end of a hand.

I was once in a similar situation.  I walked up to an empty table that had an established point of 8.  I can’t remember now if there were any bets in action, but let’s assume not.  Rather we’ll say that the shooter was allowed to throw the dice without a line bet, and then refused to make one and left when this mistake was noticed.  As the lone player now I was given the dice and allowed to finish the hand without a line bet, although I did place the point.  I was also told that I would be allowed to keep the dice after completing the hand for a hand of my own.  I missed the 8 before any other players showed up, so this last condition became unnecessary.  I can only assume, however, that had I made the 8 I would have been required to make a front or back line bet before continuing the departed player’s hand.

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Posted: 07 April 2011 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I brought this situation to the attention of the floor supervisor and he said he would tell the ol’ timer the come bet would be removed and he would have to put it on the PL and he would initiate a new comeout roll.

I am confident each casino’s would handle the situation differently as their is no universally accepted rule. And probably, within the same casino,  different box/floor supervisor would handle it differently.

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Posted: 19 April 2012 02:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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If that stranded Come bet was the sole wager on the table, most Box men would tell the dealer to return the bet to the player and let him bet it on the ‘line or the Don’t. This would be strictly against the game rules, but so what?

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Posted: 19 April 2012 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Instead of taking it down, some jurisdictions allow for the Come bettor to shoot the dice to get a decision on his/her bet.

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Posted: 20 April 2012 03:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Then what happens if new players come to the table and want to get in the game? Not being obstinate, just curious.

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Posted: 20 April 2012 09:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I would imagine the same thing as when new players want to get in the game while a hand is in progress.  If they ask why this shooter has no line bet a brief explanation of the atypical circumstances should suffice.

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Posted: 20 April 2012 11:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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The Midnight Skulker - 20 April 2012 09:09 AM

I would imagine the same thing as when new players want to get in the game while a hand is in progress.  If they ask why this shooter has no line bet a brief explanation of the atypical circumstances should suffice.

This is correct.

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